Cool! Enjoy the new found power and torque. Looking forward to my turn on the wheel. thumb up
Installed Lloyds timing wheel, now a believer
As the title states, read all the threads about the supposed amazing results. Damned if they weren't all true. major difference in torque and power throughout the throttle. I installed at +6*.
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The difference is simply amazing. Ride on!
so heres my question as I am a power junkie. I have pipes and a victory high flow filter with PC5 should I do lloyds intake before timing wheel or does it matter and does it affect the map on the PC5 doing the wheel.
Installed mine at the preset four degrees and couldn't be happier. The big plus for me is how much better the bike runs just off idle. Stock I always felt that I had to be real careful when starting from a stop, it was easy to kill the engine. No more stumbling! That alone makes the wheel well worth the investment.
That thing is great! I left mine at the +4 setting and I love it. Great bang for your buck on this mod.
you can do wheel now. You might have to change your low timing setting on the PCVso heres my question as I am a power junkie. I have pipes and a victory high flow filter with PC5 should I do lloyds intake before timing wheel or does it matter and does it affect the map on the PC5 doing the wheel.
Lloydz has NO intake system for your bike
so heres my question as I am a power junkie. I have pipes and a victory high flow filter with PC5 should I do lloyds intake before timing wheel or does it matter and does it affect the map on the PC5 doing the wheel.
You will be fine installing the timing wheel before getting the lloydz air filter. Unless you have timing on your PCV you shouldn't worry. If you do, just try it ans listen closely. If there are pings, back it off on the PCV.
I still can't get over what a difference this makes. Went for a long ride today riding 2-up and power was amazing. Feels like I got another bike.
Stupid crazy to get this much performance change for $142.
Stupid crazy to get this much performance change for $142.
Can the timing wheel be installed on stock bike or does it need a programer with it?
You may install with everything else stock. No fuel program required. It simply corrects for the timing ma Vic does at the factory to pass EPA requirements, plus a little if you go past +4 degrees.
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Very easy, hardest part is removing the floorboard. Total time from beginning to end is <30 minutes.
Fairly easy, mine required me to loosen one exhaust pipe to clear 2 of the Allen bolts on the cam cover, I do have aftermarket Freedom Performance pipes tho.
also I purchased a new gasket, just as well cos I broke the old one.
Installed mine at the preset 4 deg but make sure you torque the adjustment bolts as they arent very tight.
Also double check the alignment pin lines up with the slot.
On the vid I saw it slipped on easy, mine took a few small taps,
Beware! One of our forum members had drastic results fitting,.
See elsewhere on the forum.
It 'should ' go on easy.
Take your time and consult the install guide on here if you have any doubts.
Its a very worthwhile mod.
I'm considering the timing wheel upgrade and have a couple of questions. I apologize if they have been covered in other forum posts. (I searched and read MANY posts but didn't find answers to these.)
1. Is it possible that the timing wheel upgrade could void the bike warranty? In other words, couldn't Polaris potentially blame this for any engine problems, legitimate or otherwise?
2. Should we expect the timing wheel to require adjustment if we take a trip to a significantly different elevation? (In my case to Colorado, for example?) I assume Polaris sets up the OEM timing wheel to try to hit an average that will be relatively successful in any part of the country, no matter the altitude. Fine tuning with this upgraded version should bring us to a much better setting for our normal stomping grounds, but couldn't it be out of range for any significant altitude change? I would think it would be wise to bring a few tools along and be prepared to make an adjustment if it starts pinging.
(I would also think that a change in fuel octane could cause the need for adjustment, although I doubt many owners change fuel octane very often, if ever.)
It is not my intent to be pessimistic. I really like the idea but want to be sure I understand it all well enough before taking the plunge.
Thanks!
1. Is it possible that the timing wheel upgrade could void the bike warranty? In other words, couldn't Polaris potentially blame this for any engine problems, legitimate or otherwise?
2. Should we expect the timing wheel to require adjustment if we take a trip to a significantly different elevation? (In my case to Colorado, for example?) I assume Polaris sets up the OEM timing wheel to try to hit an average that will be relatively successful in any part of the country, no matter the altitude. Fine tuning with this upgraded version should bring us to a much better setting for our normal stomping grounds, but couldn't it be out of range for any significant altitude change? I would think it would be wise to bring a few tools along and be prepared to make an adjustment if it starts pinging.
(I would also think that a change in fuel octane could cause the need for adjustment, although I doubt many owners change fuel octane very often, if ever.)
It is not my intent to be pessimistic. I really like the idea but want to be sure I understand it all well enough before taking the plunge.
Thanks!
Forgive the lack of posting names of those I'm responding to.
It doesn't matter if you install the wheel first or lloydz intake (torque tubes or filter) first. The PCV will adjust the AF accordingly.
It is not necessary for most to install a fuel tuner when installing a timing wheel but if you read the email communication in the below link, you may want to. Without the tuner you WILL be running leaner after installing the wheel. On a cross bike will it be lean enough to cause pinging? Not likely, but it will be leaner than what you're running now. If you want to maintain you're AFR and prevent it from going leaner, you'll need a tuner.
http://www.victoryforums.com/showthread.php?p=822697#post822697
The wheel does work, it will give you a positive seat of the pants difference in power at +4 but if you can run at +4 why not go higher? You'll gain more power if you go higher, and if you have a tuner you can correct AFR as you go up. For those who installed at the preset +4 and are very happy with that, GREAT! now try +6 thumb up
It doesn't matter if you install the wheel first or lloydz intake (torque tubes or filter) first. The PCV will adjust the AF accordingly.
It is not necessary for most to install a fuel tuner when installing a timing wheel but if you read the email communication in the below link, you may want to. Without the tuner you WILL be running leaner after installing the wheel. On a cross bike will it be lean enough to cause pinging? Not likely, but it will be leaner than what you're running now. If you want to maintain you're AFR and prevent it from going leaner, you'll need a tuner.
http://www.victoryforums.com/showthread.php?p=822697#post822697
The wheel does work, it will give you a positive seat of the pants difference in power at +4 but if you can run at +4 why not go higher? You'll gain more power if you go higher, and if you have a tuner you can correct AFR as you go up. For those who installed at the preset +4 and are very happy with that, GREAT! now try +6 thumb up
Will it worth it to just install the PC-V + Timing wheel and leave everything else stock? (mufflers & air filter).
Mufflers are expensive! What about just removing the baffles?
Thank you.
Mufflers are expensive! What about just removing the baffles?
Thank you.
yes, while you'll gain performance by changing the air filter and exhaust too, you can run the wheel and pcv with an otherwise stock setup and still get this great seat of the pants feel everybody is talking about.Will it worth it to just install the PC-V + Timing wheel and leave everything else stock? (mufflers & air filter).
Mufflers are expensive! What about just removing the baffles?
Thank you.
There are also plenty of options out there without replacing your entire exhaust.Mufflers are expensive! What about just removing the baffles?
Thank you.
You can go without stock baffles or look into some options posted below
https://www.bigcitythunder.com/
http://buywitchdoctors.com/c/700/vi...gine-components-cross-country-roads-hardball/
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