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I assume most of you heard they are opening a plant in Mexico, not to build the engine which is built or going to be in Iowa, but for some other reason. Maybe make everything but the engine. Anyone know what's up with this, and how do you feel about it. Curious.

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The problem with your post is that you're wrong. POLARIS is moving SOME production to Mexico.

From MPRnews Polaris: Moving to Mexico to get closer to customers (Posted on May 21, 2010 - over a year ago BTW)

Polaris CEO Scott Wine says the company is closing the plant and opening a facility in Mexico to get closer to key customers and to cut labor costs. He says many competitors have made similar moves.

"We have concluded that in order to remain competitive and position Polaris for growth in the global market, we must align our manufacturing operations closer to our evolving customer base and seek to lower our overall manufacturing and logistics costs," said Wine.

The company expects the move will help it eventually save $30 million a year, with much of the savings coming from lower wages. Officials didn't detail how much lower the wages would be in Mexico, though.

In Mexico, Wine says Polaris will be closer to states where its ATVs and related products have been selling especially well.

"Our ATV and side-by-side products represent over two-thirds of our total sales, with about 40 percent of that customer base located in the southern half of the United States," he said.
Personally I feel they could move to Nevada and will be even "closer to states where its ATVs and related products have been selling especially well". I understand that wages are cheaper in Mexico than in the US. It just sucks that they have to move to stay competitive. Still better than moving to China like seems to be the latest trend. 'Heartless' Harley-Davidson closes wheel plant
GE Moves Healthcare Division's X-Ray Unit Headquarters To China
 

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Personally I feel they could move to Nevada and will be even "closer to states where its ATVs and related products have been selling especially well".
Problem is finding a workforce in Nevada that rivals Mexico. It's way easier to find workers south of the border.

That said, there are other US states that would be better examples than NV, and arguably would fit the requirement posed. I honestly think the reason was costs and the "being closer to our customer base" while cost-influenced is not the whole story.
 

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Thats a dame shame!!Very disappointed with this move.Like we need to lose anymore jobs!I dont think the Mexicans are buying $20000 bikes or anything for that matter.Make the product somewere else and let the americans buy it!!what a joke.I am a union construction worker and made in america is important to me!The labor in mexico will be cheaper but the price on the bikes will not come down thats for sure!Ita all corporate greed.
 

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This is bad news in my humble opinion. I really love my Cross Country but the main reason I bought it was MADE IN USA! This sends the worst possible message to those of us trying to support a failing economy. If the CEOs quote is accurate than savings "from lower wages" means giving away American jobs. And to which competitors is Steve Wine referring? Victory has already demonstrated that it can compete with what the Japanese are offering despite a higher price tag. Maybe he's talking about the $30k BMW K model?! I'm confused. Bottom line, quit jerkin my chain. Just admit that this is nothing more than grabbing for a larger profit share. I for one am trully disappointed. :mad:
 

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VICTORY HAS NEVER CONSIDERED MOVING TO MEXICO...EVER!!!
Before you jump to conclusions please review the facts and don't react to rumor!!!!
I didn't say they are moving ALL production? Maybe you had a bad day.

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And you're thinking I'm having a bad day because??? :confused:

I very politely corrected your misguided assumptions and incorrectly stated rumor by emphasizing that Victory isn't moving any of it's production to Mexico...at all. None, Nada, zip, zilch. And even though Polaris is moving there, they are only moving some of their production.

But since you brought it up, next time you might want to check your facts a little closer before you help spread a false rumor, especially one that is over a year old ;)

If your wondering why I am being such a smart aleck then look at what shooter and albradburn posted. People accept and act on what is posted on the INTERNET as fact. That's why I never post a rumor and why I felt I needed to bold and increase the font in my opening statement.

For example, (no offense intended) I didn't trust the information posted in the thread talking about Harley closing their wheel production in Australia until I found it on a reputable site (in that case an Australian news website). Even though you would think Motorcycle.com would be a reputable site, here is a link to their report about Polaris' move to Mexico Victory Motorcycles Outsourcing to Mexico? The writer accepted rumor at face value and ended up printing a clarification. PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE ARTICLE INCLUDING WHERE POLARIS CLARIFIED THEY ARE NOT MOVING VICTORY PRODUCTION TO MEXICO

Problem is finding a workforce in Nevada that rivals Mexico. It's way easier to find workers south of the border.

That said, there are other US states that would be better examples than NV, and arguably would fit the requirement posed. I honestly think the reason was costs and the "being closer to our customer base" while cost-influenced is not the whole story.
I picked Nevada because I was stationed there and know it more than any other state in that section of the country. The biggest thing Nevada has going for it that I know of is there isn't a state income tax. Rather a lot of the state income comes from the gaming industry.

I didn't personally check into business rules but I would think there would be incentives for moving your business there. If I remember correctly, car and renters insurance were cheaper there than most places I've been. Also Amazon opened a 750,000-square-foot order fulfillment center outside of Fernley in 1999. With no major natural disasters and easy access to both I-80 and a rail system it looked like a great place to me. But like I said, I'm not a business tycoon :rolleyes: And yes I understand Mexican workers are cheaper than American workers, it would still be nice if we could keep more jobs here, even if it means a slightly higher purchase price.
 

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I didn't say they are moving ALL production? Maybe you had a bad day.

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I assume most of you heard they are opening a plant in Mexico, not to build the engine which is built or going to be in Iowa, but for some other reason. Maybe make everything but the engine. Anyone know what's up with this, and how do you feel about it. Curious.

maurice

Oh no, I can't imagine where he got that from, the confusion was apparently ALL on him. :rolleyes:
 

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Nevada WOULD be a great State to manufacture Polaris equipment, The wages here aren't that much worse than many low wager states, especially with 15% unemployment in Las Vegas, it does not have any state income tax,is on major rail, air and freeway lines, housing is cheap, and warehouse / commercial space is wide open with many locations newly built and empty.

The State desparately wants to attract business other than construction and gaming. How about the CEO of Polaris contact the Nevada Governor Sandaval to see what they can do.

I too bought my Jackpot BECAUSE it is MORE AMERICAN than Harley, move to Mexico and become a Global Company???? How about raising the currency of Mexico and China, better yet add tariffs to their cheap goods.

This past weekend I bought a boys bicycle ($42.00) and a girls bicycle ($48.00) for a toy run, they were small mind you but HOW MUCH??? Made in China. ( Walmart)

I also purchased a 46" HD TV at Walmart $428.00 Element Brand

Good deal for me, but this is wrong.

Sadly America is is deep decline with no leadership to get us out, hopefully a few companies like Polaris stay true, but we will see.

I will send an email to the Governor.

We could export some hookers to China maybe.:ltr:
 

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I recently saw an add for line workers needed at the Victory plant. Certified/experienced welders were starting at like $14.00/Hr. Welders get paid twice that where I live.
 

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Sadly America is is deep decline with no leadership to get us out, hopefully a few companies like Polaris stay true, but we will see.
*Leadership*

Now there is another buzz word that drives me up a wall. What the hell is *leadership* supposed to do? Businesses exist to make profits for their owners. Are they supposed to change because some govie *leader* says "shame on you?" Should they hire a business *leader* who loses share to competitors because they can't compete on price?

I'm afraid change will involve enacting laws and right now Congress (the body responsible for writing laws) won't agree that the sky is blue.

When nearly half the people taking up space there are doing nothing more than protecting their well heeled campaign contributors from insignificant tax increases, you can forget about anything getting done to help working people.

You voted these bozos in, you buy the foreign products, stop looking for a leader to solve your problems and start/keep doing things you can to rectify the problems. Be your own leader.
 

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Made in America

BEING A CANADIAN I bought a Victory motorcycle because I thought most of it was made by our friends in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

If this changes dramaticlly I may look at other bikes. I would like to know what the US content is in a Victory because all of the wiring that I have bought ie Ipod harness was from China and that was incorrectly wired twice.

All I am saying to the company is to not underestimate the made in America loyalty they have even for Canadians and vice versa.
 

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I read an news article titled "Ten Things Still Made In The USA". It stated that in order for a product to have the "Made In The USA" label, it must be made up of at least 75% american manufactured and assembled parts. Harley Davidson was at the top of the list with a side note saying that Victory motorcycles are also made here. Steinway Pianos made the list. Toyota Camery was on the list. In fact this Toyota model is more american than some Chevys being made now by that definition. Strange world.
 

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I can't blame any company for moving production out of the US based on the current political climate. High taxes, high wages, environmental regulation/costs/fuel costs(cap &trade), and the list goes on. Why else would HD move so much to China? It's our fault that we have let this happen. Go Polaris Go, and prosper. Remember companies survive on cash flow not cash depletion.:D
 

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BEING A CANADIAN I bought a Victory motorcycle because I thought most of it was made by our friends in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

If this changes dramaticlly I may look at other bikes. I would like to know what the US content is in a Victory because all of the wiring that I have bought ie Ipod harness was from China and that was incorrectly wired twice.

All I am saying to the company is to not underestimate the made in America loyalty they have even for Canadians and vice versa.
As stated mulitple times above the OP is wrong. Victory is NOT moving to Mexico!!!!!!

maurice, I hope that you now realize why I was so quick to respond to correct your post. Even with that people who read this STILL think that what you said was accurate and factual.
 

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Polaris is moving the 4 wheelers to Mexico cause its closer to the ocean for shipping world wide. When they were in Wi. they could only put so many in a semi and ship to the coast to ship over seas.
Victory will sooner or later move the motor plant to sprite lake.
 

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maurice, I hope that you now realize why I was so quick to respond to correct your post. Even with that people who read this STILL think that what you said was accurate and factual.
I don't. google victory move to Mexico. There are so many people that are wrong it is incredible. The motor and assembly is in the USA as I read from Victory spokemans, so my original posting was how much of the bike parts are built in Monterrey Mexico, and how do people feel about it. I am done.

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I think we get the picture that Victory isn't moving anything. However most people associate Victory bikes with Polaris so in turn these people will think Mexico is making Victory parts right or wrong thats what they'll think. Everything Victory/Polaris has emphasized has been "Made in America". Just hoping this isn't the start of a trend for them!!
 

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I think we get the picture that Victory isn't moving anything. However most people associate Victory bikes with Polaris so in turn these people will think Mexico is making Victory parts right or wrong thats what they'll think. Everything Victory/Polaris has emphasized has been "Made in America". Just hoping this isn't the start of a trend for them!!
If this is true that the confusion is that polaris is not victory necessarily, and that the Mexico move/plant has nothing to do with the bike, Great! I just did not read it that way and it was not clear. Especially when the spokesperson for victory tried to clear up the confusion and stated that " the engine will be made in Iowa, so we are an American made motorcycle". Doesn't anyone wonder about the rest of the bike? I do.

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He had to clear it up because that is what people were thinking. Most people that keep up with Victory on forums etc. will know whats going on but the rest will not be up to date and when the rumor mills start look out. I'm not sure how many people stay on top of what Victory is doing but I'm sure its a small number compared to how many bikes they have out there. I just hope nothing else is moved to Mexico especially from the Victory side, we need all the jobs we can handle here!!
 
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