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Before my 500 mile service I noticed some seepage from the top of the primary cover. Nothing crazy but it shouldn't be there. At the service the tech re-torqued the bolts and it stopped for a little while. Now it's leaking in the same spot. Tech said the bikes sit and the gaskets get brittle. Back at the dealers now for the warranty service.

Just wondering, is this a common problem?
 

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that's a crappy response from the dealer. I just replaced the original gaskets on a 99 moto for piece of mind. I'd check and make sure those bolts weren't stripped
 

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Yea I thought it was a little strange..how long can a 2012 really sit? If the bolts are stripped then it happened at the factory or in set-up. Either way they have to fix it. I'm curious what they'll tell me..
 

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Sounds like a tech that is still green. Pass the buck is what I call him. I would do a factory call and start filling out paper work on how many attempts do fix the problem.
 

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Before my 500 mile service I noticed some seepage from the top of the primary cover. Nothing crazy but it shouldn't be there. At the service the tech re-torqued the bolts and it stopped for a little while. Now it's leaking in the same spot. Tech said the bikes sit and the gaskets get brittle. Back at the dealers now for the warranty service.

Just wondering, is this a common problem?
Even if this is a common problem and due to a brittle gasket, it is not an acceptable problem... it is one that needs to be diagnosed and remedied. There are any number of potential causes for this situation and each one should be addressed until the culprit is found.
 

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My 2010 XC did the same thing at first, and others have reported theirs is the same.
I really didn't worry about it, just torqued the bolts to spec, wiped it off and watched it.

I bought the bike in April, and by June it had stopped leaking. Now it's tight and clean.

The gasket has a gel bead around it and I think it just needs to get good and hot to seal properly.

Good luck.
 

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It must be a common problem because when I first brought it to their attention they said Victory tells them to re-torque the bolts before doing any warranty service. I agree it is an annoyance but totally unacceptable on a new bike. It's funny HD's are joked about for leaking but I've had 4 of them and none of them leaked a drop.
 

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I do get a kick out of mechanic's think were just Dumb ass riders. :ltr:
When I had mine in for some work he gave me the same kinda story so I told him to write that on the work order. He didn't want to do that. Then I informed him of my back ground and he changed his tune.
The real way to fix that is pull one bolt at a time clean each hole with a electric cleaner ( no residue left behind ) now clean each bolt and reinstall to torque spec.

We live in a new world and gaskets don't crack get brietill and any other BS.
 

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I believe that I saw on here somewhere that Vic coats the gasket with grease to aid in sticking them in place during assembly. Sometimes the grease can transfer onto the case and give the appearence of a very minor leak between the case and side cover. Maybe it just needs to be cleaned off really good, like with some brake cleaner or something.
 

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Whenever I purchase a new vehicle, I start a diary in a 3 ring notebook. In it, I note date and times of incidents, when it went in for repair/service and when it came out. I also note the results of any repairs. I have a section for the paperwork, such as work orders and receipts. Another section has manuals, instructions and receipts for add-ons and accessories. When I have encountered a difficulty with a dealer, I open the notebook and start writing. I usually get things done right the first time - second at most. I recommend those having problems do that too. Better yet, start a notebook the day you buy.
 

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Whenever I purchase a new vehicle, I start a diary in a 3 ring notebook. In it, I note date and times of incidents, when it went in for repair/service and when it came out. I also note the results of any repairs. I have a section for the paperwork, such as work orders and receipts. Another section has manuals, instructions and receipts for add-ons and accessories. When I have encountered a difficulty with a dealer, I open the notebook and start writing. I usually get things done right the first time - second at most. I recommend those having problems do that too. Better yet, start a notebook the day you buy.
Very smart. I do the same thing and find it fun to go back and read about mileage tire life and so on good for you
 

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Before my 500 mile service I noticed some seepage from the top of the primary cover. Nothing crazy but it shouldn't be there. At the service the tech re-torqued the bolts and it stopped for a little while. Now it's leaking in the same spot. Tech said the bikes sit and the gaskets get brittle. Back at the dealers now for the warranty service.

Just wondering, is this a common problem?

My primary also had the same problem and my dealer at the 800 klms first service said that the specs from Victory for how much torque on the bolts was too low and that they tightened them more and the problem would be fixed. Wrong, it still seeps from the top of the primary cover but doesn't leak. Still I'm not happy with it and will have them look at it again on the next service. I'm racking up the Kilometres quickly so it won't be all that long.

Cheers Kym
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I believe that I saw on here somewhere that Vic coats the gasket with grease to aid in sticking them in place during assembly. Sometimes the grease can transfer onto the case and give the appearence of a very minor leak between the case and side cover. Maybe it just needs to be cleaned off really good, like with some brake cleaner or something.
That's exactly what it looks like..but it keeps coming back and it's always in the same spot. It seems if that was the case it would be in random spots.
 

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My primary also had the same problem and my dealer at the 800 klms first service said that the specs from Victory for how much torque on the bolts was too low and that they tightened them more and the problem would be fixed. Wrong, it still seeps from the top of the primary cover but doesn't leak. Still I'm not happy with it and will have them look at it again on the next service. I'm racking up the Kilometres quickly so it won't be all that long.

Cheers Kym
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I love how some dealers rationalize and make assumptions when they really don't know what the hell is causing the problem. I'd much rather hear "we really don't know, but we'll find out" than a bunch of theories. I don't buy the brittle gasket thing for one second. I'm no Vic mechanic but I know those gaskets aren't made out of cardboard. Even though this is a relatively minor issue I'm not letting it go. New is new. I'm keeping an open mind and giving them a chance. We'll see..
 

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I've done my share of wrenching on bikes and I do enjoy it.. but a with brand new warrantied bike the only thing I'm doing myself for the next 2 years is changing the oil.
 

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Polaris/Victory's stance is that if they ignore or do not "fix" a problem the greater majority of them will go away. ie... I now do all my own work on my bike due to their lack of knowledge even though it is under warranty.

Typically when a new gasket is leaking, it is due to the fact that either the gasket or one of the two faces it is supposed to seal is not up to spec. Usually it is a "bad" gasket... yes there is such an animal... but it could be a pit or burr on one of the surfaces. It isn't rocket science, but there is a reason that jobs are leaving this country other than the cost of labor... the quality of the remaining labor has declined just as rapidly.
 

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Ok after a week in the shop, the verdict is "the gasket was dry". I'm in no position to dispute them, as I didn't see the gasket. As long as it's fixed, I don't care what the problem was. Time will tell...
 

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Total BS, I bought my 2004 last year and started riding it 5/2011, it had 417 miles on it and it sat most of its life before i got it. now has 3900 miles and no leaks.
 

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Total BS, I bought my 2004 last year and started riding it 5/2011, it had 417 miles on it and it sat most of its life before i got it. now has 3900 miles and no leaks.
What if your bike was "stored" in a cooler ambient temperature than his? What if the previous owner did start it once in a while, to show it off to his friends, but did not ride it, so no miles were logged? The thing with rubber is that you cannot exactly predict when it will fail. You can only estimate a certain lifespan for it, after which some rubber seals, gaskets, tires or other parts will fail, while others will continue to perform. wac
 
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