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Installed one of these last night. The guy on Witchdoctors web site made it look so easy that he won my confidence so i gave it a go.. 2 hours later I finally got it right. My issues...
I have cruise control... that had to come off.
I have Cross Country bars for pullback so the throttle cable is to tight to just slip the grip off of the end. So the bars had to be loosened to have the slack needed to get the piece on. Had it not been for the Witchdoctors video...I would have really been lost. Being an I.T. guy, i don't know why I try these things meant for professionals... but it all went back together well and in spite of my best efforts... it works. I have done all of the little mods on my bike and somehow it still runs great....

After the test drive, i know my next issue will be poor gas mileage as this thing rocks.....:D

Thanks Witchdoctors mechanic video dude, you saved me !!
 

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Have you tried your cruise control yet?
You may need to go down behind the right side wedge and loosen the cables if you haven't already. This will get you a little slack and you can adjust the cables at the handlebar throttle area to get your cruise back in line. Not hard but need patience to get it right.
 

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Luckily my cruise control seems to work fine... I have only been on a 5 mile or so test ride. The true test will be when i ride this weekend but so far so good.... thanks for help. I would have never attempted wrenching on my bike if not for this forum, but now I feel pretty confident.. (I'm still going to get KevinX to do the cams though...soon)
 

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I guess I don't understand the quarter turn. Does it make it so it only turns a quarter. Doesn't that make it real touchy at slow speeds?


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The quarter turn basically shortens the turn of the throttle "spin"... when you realize that throttle actually "spins" about a half turn to start with, splitting that difference is pretty nice. it isn't near as "touchy" as one might think. I drive interstate about 20 miles to and from work everyday so the biggest advantage to me is being able to accelerate much more quickly to get out of trouble...(and accelerating is way more fun that braking)
 

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For some reason Victory uses a much longer throttle twist that other manufacturers. It was one of the first things that I noticed when I picked up the new bike. I've got a quarter turn throttle ring sitting on the bench but I haven't installed it yet, hopefully I'll get around to it in the next week.
 

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Stock throttle twist is more than what your wrist can handle comfortably without readjusting your hand position. After adding the 1/4 turn, it's just right. Might take a minute or two to get used to it, but not twitchy at all. thumb up
 

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I guess I don't understand the quarter turn. Does it make it so it only turns a quarter. Doesn't that make it real touchy at slow speeds?


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No it doesn't. That's the answer to both of your questions. The 1/4 turn should really be called 1/2 turn because that's much more accurate. It is much better than the stock throttle turn but it really aint 1/4 turn. It isn't touchy at slow speeds, it feels very normal. It's how Vic should have designed it. It's just the right amount of throttle turn.
 

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So I decided to get that quarter turn throttle ring installed yesterday afternoon when the weather moved in again and made the garage about the only place the motorcycle would be comfy. I swear if it doesn't stop raining I'm gonna put my garden back in and plant rice.

Anyway...the installation is a breeze except for the fact that Victory seems to have purchased a train car load of "Red" Loctite. Red? Really Victory, was red Loctite necessary to keep the lower throttle cable ferrels from vibrating off on the road? Other than getting into an argument with the lower throttle cable jam nuts because somebody essentially used JB Weld on 'em everything went just ducky. I did pop the gas tank up to give me some more room to get my fat arthritic fingers under there. Luckily the cruise control cable just snaps into place so it was easy to get around.

All in all it wasn't quite as quick as changing the oil (one beer job) but I'd rate it no higher than a two beer job for most folks. Now once again if we can see some sunshine and calm winds maybe we'll go ride the thing.

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The 1/4 turn should really be called 1/2 turn because that's much more accurate. It is much better than the stock throttle turn but it really aint 1/4 turn.
Interesting, mine is exactly 1/4 turn. Using the seam on the grip as a reference point, it goes from pointing straight up at idle to lined up with the seam on the controls at WOT. Pretty much exactly 90 degrees. Still not twitchy though. Seems odd yours could be double that. My wrist doesn't go that far.
 

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The term quarter turn is a misnomer. It refers to one quarter of one half of the circumference of the throttle grip, it is actually 1/8th of the total circumference of the grip.

So called quarter turn throttles became popular on Moto Cross bikes of the mid 70's. I believe that the Honda Elsinore was the first factory bike to use them and they became standard on all others soon after.
 

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Its hard to say how much I like the 1/4 turn since I did the vfc3, baffles, ATS, and intake at the same time. I do know that I enjoy the bike more and more everyday sincecheers.
 

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Interesting, mine is exactly 1/4 turn. Using the seam on the grip as a reference point, it goes from pointing straight up at idle to lined up with the seam on the controls at WOT. Pretty much exactly 90 degrees. Still not twitchy though. Seems odd yours could be double that. My wrist doesn't go that far.
Mine is exactly 1/4 turn too. It's not twitchy and I can go from idle to full throttle without re-gripping now.
 

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The term quarter turn is a misnomer. It refers to one quarter of one half of the circumference of the throttle grip, it is actually 1/8th of the total circumference of the grip.

So called quarter turn throttles became popular on Moto Cross bikes of the mid 70's. I believe that the Honda Elsinore was the first factory bike to use them and they became standard on all others soon after.
+1 :I agree:


MX bikes is where I found my love for 2 wheels, I grew up riding. In the MX world 1/4 turn was basically 1/4 of your stock throttle turning. That's what I had in mind when I bought mine. I was slightly disappointed but much happier with the turn over stock.

With that in mind, as my previous post said, these are more like 1/2 turn.
 

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Interesting, I never made the connection between the name and the 70's MX world. I'm going to guess Lloyd correctly named the part after it's actual function as opposed to having misrepresented it's function using 70's dirt bike terminology.
 

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Interesting, mine is exactly 1/4 turn. Using the seam on the grip as a reference point, it goes from pointing straight up at idle to lined up with the seam on the controls at WOT. Pretty much exactly 90 degrees. Still not twitchy though. Seems odd yours could be double that. My wrist doesn't go that far.
+1..
Twist goes from 120 degrees of turn from off to full throttle down to 90 degrees of turn.
90 degrees is 1/4 of a full 360 degree turn hence the name 1/4 turn.
No where near half turn
 

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The wife and I took a putt up to the east gate of Yellowstone yesterday for lunch which was the first outing for the throttle ring, a GREAT improvement over stock!! I use a throttle rocker palm pad that's been on my last three bikes. The stock throttle using the cruise control would cause me to prevent the throttle from rolling off once in a while because of the large amount of movement. With the quarter turn ring installed the problem is no more.
 

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Interesting, I never made the connection between the name and the 70's MX world. I'm going to guess Lloyd correctly named the part after it's actual function as opposed to having misrepresented it's function using 70's dirt bike terminology.
:ltr: I wasn't even born then. c'mon man, I aint that old

Let me ask you this. How far is a full turn on your stock throttle? 360 degrees?? You're saying 1/4 turn throttle is accurate and appropriate being 90 degrees. 1/4 being 25% and 90 X 4 being 360 so your throttle actually went AALLLLL the way around!? :eek:

I haven't actually measured or took a gauge out to get the exact degree but just off the top of my head I think both of my Vics were probably around 180 degrees to turn FULL throttle. So a full turn of the throttle on my bikes only went about 180 that would make 90 degrees a half turn and 45 degrees a 1/4 turn.

But hey, that's just logical thinking, who cares right? If everybody is happy with their little throttle turn thinga majig then why fight over a name?
 

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No it doesn't. That's the answer to both of your questions. The 1/4 turn should really be called 1/2 turn because that's much more accurate. It is much better than the stock throttle turn but it really aint 1/4 turn. It isn't touchy at slow speeds, it feels very normal. It's how Vic should have designed it. It's just the right amount of throttle turn.


I have the same experience. No where near 1/4 (90 degree) turn. I still am happy to have the reduction it did give
 

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Installed one of these last night. The guy on Witchdoctors web site made it look so easy that he won my confidence so i gave it a go.. 2 hours later I finally got it right. My issues...
I have cruise control... that had to come off.
I have Cross Country bars for pullback so the throttle cable is to tight to just slip the grip off of the end. So the bars had to be loosened to have the slack needed to get the piece on. Had it not been for the Witchdoctors video...I would have really been lost.

After the test drive, i know my next issue will be poor gas mileage as this thing rocks.....:D
Installed mine this morning and taking the grip off was not as easy as the WD video depicted, never is though. I ended up clipping the cable ties and removing the cruise switch to finally work if off the end of the bars. The bike doesn't feel like sch a slush box now, much better response...
 
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