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Ok first off I'm 36 years old 6'4" and about 350.
I'm looking to buy my first motorcycle this year or next. Been looking at Vics and road stars. My fatherhas a road star and it's pretty nice.
Anyways the fella at the yamaha dealership and some posters on other forums said to get a small bike (650) for a year or two and I was all set to do that till I talked to my father and friend. My uncle, father, and friend all said I would be disappointed in that small bike after aweek of riding and to just get the bigger one noe and be done with it. I can see both points and I'm not sure what to do. So anyways if I go bigger then obviously it's more money. Well if I'm going to spend that much then I might ad well get what I really want (victory).
I don't plan on doing anything but cruising around town and riding short distances. Just looking for other peoples input on first bikes.
Speed is not an issue for me. I just want to relax. And I love the Vegas jackpot lOok. Well I like all the victory bikes look tbh
 

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In my opinion dont buy a small bike,you will out grow it very fast! I am a first time rider and i bought the Kingpin and very happy with my decision. Victory motorcycles are very easy to ride very well balanced machines. Here are some pics of mine. Good luck!!cheers
 

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I would go for the Jackpot. Just take your time getting adjusted to the handling. Take the safety class, do some low-speed drills for a few days, then sides streets, backroads for awhile. Within a couple of months, you'll be riding like a pro.
 

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If you haven't spent much time on a bike I suggest buying something smaller and less expensive to start with. You'll notice in classifieds that many people buy bikes, ride them a few times and sell them with less than 1K miles on them. Some people just can't get comfortable with the risk; they have a couple of close calls with cars and decide that bikes are not for them -- then they lose their @$$ when they sell them.

Find a cheap 650 - 1100 and get some miles on it. When you're ready (and confident) sell it and buy the Victory of your dreams. This way you may only be out a couple hundred $$ and you don't lose your @$$ pursuing a dream that turns into a nightmare. If you do it right you may actually make money on the cheap bike.
 

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In most cases, I would say get the smaller bike and try it out, but you are too big for a small bike. It will not only make for an uncomfortable ride by being bunched up, but I like to have some extra oomf just in case I need to gas it and get out of a sticky situation. You simply will not have that option with anything less than a 1100cc bike or so. If you're going to be spending that much already, get the bike you want. Even if it is just a weekend cruiser.cheers
 

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In most cases, I would say get the smaller bike and try it out, but you are too big for a small bike. It will not only make for an uncomfortable ride by being bunched up, but I like to have some extra oomf just in case I need to gas it and get out of a sticky situation. You simply will not have that option with anything less than a 1100cc bike or so. If you're going to be spending that much already, get the bike you want. Even if it is just a weekend cruiser.cheers
Of all the posts and all the forums, this post made the most sense to me. Because of this fella, I'll be getting a victory in the near future.
 

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I hope it all works out for you and you enjoy riding as much as you hope to. Be careful out there, ease you way into it and you'll find it much easier to deal with other traffic.

I strongly suggest taking a motorcycle safety course. The course will teach you how to control your bike better and how to avoid accidents.
 

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I hope it all works out for you and you enjoy riding as much as you hope to. Be careful out there, ease you way into it and you'll find it much easier to deal with other traffic.

I strongly suggest taking a motorcycle safety course. The course will teach you how to control your bike better and how to avoid accidents.
I'm definantly taking a safety course... Maybe a few
 

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My Jackpot is my first and only bike. Before I bought Porti I took the MSF class. Before the class I had maybe 1 hour in the saddle total ride time in my life.

If I went with a small "learners" bike I would have been pissed because I would have wanted a larger bike within a few months and would have wasted the money on that small bike.

Buy what you want, treat the bike with the respect it deserves, take it to a lot and learn the dynamics of your bike and enjoy.

Also take the MSF course. Not only is it a great learning tool but you get a big break on insurance.
 

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Ditto about the MSF course. I Bought a used Vulcan 900 to see if I would like riding. Within two months I bought a new XC. Good thing about the vulcan is that I got my money back on the trade.
Having said that, you probably are too big for anything under 1100/1200 ccs. I'm about 220 and was pushing it on the Vulcan when GF was riding with me. I was a bit hesitant at first to go from a 600 lb bike to an 800+ lb bike, but the Vic is so easy to ride it was a non issue. Of course the JP is lighter than the XC so I'm sure you will be plenty happy and not have problem. Enjoy.
 

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Have you had prior riding experience in any capacity? Dirtbikes, ATVs, etc? I use to be in sales of Polaris, Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki bikes, and I've seen too many times where a man will come in hard wired that he is a beginner and needs a small 800 900 or whatever, only to bring it back in a few weeks pissed off that he didnt get something bigger right away. (especially guys around your size, 6'4 350 is straight up lineman size- Its likely you'll be able to handle a higher CC bike better than a suffocated 8 or 900) If you DO decide you are going with a smaller bike. Definitely buy USED, and USED being private party. Also please consider something like a Kawasaki Vulcan 900, Suzuki M50, C50. These are bigger bikes relative to a Vstar 650 or any of the smaller CC Vstars, bigger guys are always cramped on smaller Vstars and even on Honda Shadows for the most part.
Also if you look towards the Vulcan you will be getting a belt driven machine, which all Victory bikes are.
Shaft Driven bikes handle differently in some aspects and it usually isnt to the liking of the consumer, albeit its less maintenance, the shaft jack on bumps and deceleration through gears feels awkward.

After spending a few young years on sport bikes, I went straight for the cruiser I loved and bought a Vegas.

+1000000 on the MSF safety course, and maybe even take that before you buy a bike. They will likely have you running around on little 250 Honda rebels and that may help to influence your decision on if you want to go up one, two, or three sizes.
 

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If most of your riding is going to be low speed, as you say, I strongly advise you to order the "Ride like a pro" DVD and practice what he preaches. There is no better confidence builder than that video and taking a rider course. BTW, "Ride like a pro" has been discusssed elsewhere in this forum, look it up.
 

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i use to have dirtbikes when i was younger and loved them. i wasnt hard core or anything but just loved riding around. played around with a ninja in a parking lot befor as well. thats about as far as my riding has gone im afraid.
 

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I would say if you were comfortable as a kid and on the ninja to absolutely take the course before you buy a bike, talk to some of the other beginners, see if anyone there is as tall as you, see what they have purchased or are going to purchase, and get a feel on those mini bikes, As i say, being a bigger guy it might even be easier to handle a bigger CC bike. And then make an educated decision on your purchase.

The biggest thing is going to be knowing your limits if you do buy a bigger bike (not hammering on it, easy in corners, learning the clutch)
Just because you have almost 100hp doesn't mean you have to use it right away. My father has a victory that has probably never been over 75mph.
Your obviously going to be tall enough to be able to maneuver a 700 pound machine, finding the balance at slow speeds and learning the clutches are the only two obstacles you should face, and those are very minor.

good luck!
 

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Same here

I am also technically going to be a "new rider". I an 5'10 and 210lbs and some have advised a cheaper, smaller bike but the reality is "I just have ZERO interest" in anything smaller than a used Jackpot. I am actually much more serious about the XC or Vision but that bumps the price up $5 to $10K depending on new or used.

Others have recommended a "lowered Road King" and I can get a used 7 year old one of those for around $10K so it's my only current "'compromise" of my current options.

Buy the bigger bike & learn to ride it (safely). That way you will be happy with your ride and never need to change due to size. If I somehow decide that I can't "Master" what I buy, I'll sell it and write off the losses to an "experiment". I'm also old enough now to buy what I want and nobody wants to see a 48 year old dude on a Kawasaki 600...:crzy:

Wish you luck but most importantly, enjoy the trip from here to bike ownership and daze of riding (pun intended)
 

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Just my humble opinion mate but because your size; you really shouldn't consider anything smaller than a Cross Roads. The Cross Country and Vision are also good alternatives. I can say this because they are all so well balanced. The same weight bikes in other brands would feel heavy by comparison.

If you have the basics down by riding dirt bikes when you were younger; you will have no trouble at all getting a street bike to feel comfortable. No sense buying two bikes when one will do.

Also, on anything smaller, you'll look like a monkey screwing a football. :D At least that's what everyone said when we saw some big fella or gal riding a moped back in the day....

Seriously; check out the Cross Bikes. Some people are trading the 2010's in on a 2011 because of the lower transmission noise but it really isn't a big deal. You can get some good deals on them.
 

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just my humble opinion mate but because your size; you really shouldn't consider anything smaller than a cross roads.
lol... :D

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stopped by the dealership and i got approved for about any bike i want so im pretty dang happy atm. i was torn between two bikes. The 2009 jackpot that ill try to post pics and an 05 kingpin with a custom paint job. both brand new. im steering away from the kingpin tho because it has a smaller motor and a 5 speed. im sure its fine but im looking at resale value if something should come up. kingpin was $12,500 and the 09 is like $14,600.
 

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