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Hi all,

We recently added a 2013 XC for the wife. She is a good rider but is severely vertically challenged.:ltr:

I intend to lower the bike for her. Initially I was thinking 1", but I am now considering an adjustable link. I know of a few sources for the lowering link. With the suspension at 0psi she can almost 2/3 flat foot the bike.

Now for the questions:
1) How much did you lower your bike and did you do anything for the front end?

2) Where did you get a shorter kickstand and how much shorter is it over stock vs the amount you lowered the bike

3) After lowering the bike did you notice much of a performance loss (ie. clearance etc)

Now she is not a knee dragging rider so I doubt she will notice the loss of clearance if I stay in the 1 to 1.5 inch range.

Thanks in advance for any help/advice cheers
 

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I lowered mine 1 1/2 inches with the adjustable link. Stock kick stand works perfectly. No other changes required. Rides great.
 

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I have a 1" lowering link installed and didn't need to change out the kickstand. I haven't noticed any difference in handling and haven't scraped anything yet.;)
 

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Hi all,

We recently added a 2013 XC for the wife. She is a good rider but is severely vertically challenged.:ltr:

I intend to lower the bike for her. Initially I was thinking 1", but I am now considering an adjustable link. I know of a few sources for the lowering link. With the suspension at 0psi she can almost 2/3 flat foot the bike.

Now for the questions:
1) How much did you lower your bike and did you do anything for the front end?

2) Where did you get a shorter kickstand and how much shorter is it over stock vs the amount you lowered the bike

3) After lowering the bike did you notice much of a performance loss (ie. clearance etc)

Now she is not a knee dragging rider so I doubt she will notice the loss of clearance if I stay in the 1 to 1.5 inch range.

Thanks in advance for any help/advice cheers
First of all some of these questions might be a little hard to answer considering all the different variables.
I'm 6'4'' at about 280lbs, so I didn't need to lower the bike to put my feet flat on the ground. Did it more for my personal taste for looks.

1. The first time I lowered it it was 1.5 inches. and I put about 35psi in the shocks ( PSI in shocks is mentioned because the air pressure affects height of bike some also). Now cosidering my weight, and that I lean back, I noticed that was putting more weight to the rear tire. That being said I did notice that the front end was more sensitive to road irregularities, affecting the stability that I wasn't used to in its stock set up. It wasn't scary, or dangerous, but it was there. I don't believe your wife should notice anything like that seeing how you already moved her foward on the seat, keeping weight on the front wheel, and I'm sure she is not as heavy as I am, or sits back as far as I do, which took weight off the front wheel.

2. Witch Doctors is the first shortened kickstand I can think of off the top of my head. But I know I have seen others. Could search this sight, or internet. With the adjustable Link, you could lower the bike, and see if you even need one. If I recall, I don't know if vendors cut stands down to specific tailored lengths. But you can talk to them and ask their advice.

3. Did not notice any performance loss. Only draged the tips of pipes when going into turn with a dip in the road, or comming out of a parking lot with a big drain dip before getting on the road. Also have D&Ds Straight Cuts. The last 1/2 inch bottom end of pipes took the hits. If I had slash cuts, I don't think I would have dragged. Plus don't forget the 280 lbs didn't help either. :D

Hope this helps you out
 

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Another questions is when checking oil. If you dont lower the front what will the level be for checking? Just another thought and am not trying to change subject
At one time some one said 1inch shorter and there are other sites I have come across where the stands run around 80. bucks and have also read where others have cut them and had them welded.
 

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Thanks for the replies so far, good infocheers

Her weight is not an issue, she is maybe 140 and its all boobs:ltr:

I am pretty sure I will go with a shortened kickstand, I think our XC's stand pretty upright in stock config so more lean is desired.

(side rant, I have a very short list of complaints on our XC's but the kickstand is one, I wish it locked or at least had a more positive "in-position feel" and I wish they had a switch on it to kill the engine when in gear....rant over)

The more I think about it the more I am considering the adjustable link, I like the idea of dialing it in perfect for her.

I think WitchDoctors Kickstand price is reasonable and I prefer going with a known Vendor with a good reputation.

I think she keeps bringing up these modification items so that we keep nickle and dimeing our Bike budget. That way I cannot buy my exhaust for my XC :(

If she keeps it up I might stay up some night after she goes to bed and pull the Ness exhaust off her bike and put it on mine:ride:
 

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Here is our history lesson. My wife is 5-2. She bought a cross roads. She had a Vegas, but the 21 inch front wheel was too road sensitive for her. Being vertically challenged as you mentioned your other half is, she needed some adjustments to get the feet comfortably on the ground. The dealer installed some victory lowering link(s) and lowered the bike 2-3 inches....made it ride like a rock IMO. I had the same bike, same year and no suspension mods. Well she wasn't having fun turning it, so the dealer then added pull back bars and modified the seat to,push her forward 2 inches..... They screwed up the ergonomics and dynamics of the bike,up,so,bad, it eroded her confidence and she sold the thing......and she loved it......now she rides something from the dark,side and is in heaven. Moral of the story is be very careful when you start messing with the suspension of a motorcycle. Yah there were other factors, but scraping the pipes every time she left the driveway and losing some of that beloved 4.7 inches of travel may not be the best answer. Yah I know lotsa people do it, but............ Anyway. Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
 

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I am also vertically challenged, 5'5" ish 30" inseam lowered my cross roads with the 1" witch doctor lowering link still not able to be flat footed, should have got the 1 1/2 link.


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Here is our history lesson. My wife is 5-2. She bought a cross roads. She had a Vegas, but the 21 inch front wheel was too road sensitive for her. Being vertically challenged as you mentioned your other half is, she needed some adjustments to get the feet comfortably on the ground. The dealer installed some victory lowering link(s) and lowered the bike 2-3 inches....made it ride like a rock IMO. I had the same bike, same year and no suspension mods. Well she wasn't having fun turning it, so the dealer then added pull back bars and modified the seat to,push her forward 2 inches..... They screwed up the ergonomics and dynamics of the bike,up,so,bad, it eroded her confidence and she sold the thing......and she loved it......now she rides something from the dark,side and is in heaven. Moral of the story is be very careful when you start messing with the suspension of a motorcycle. Yah there were other factors, but scraping the pipes every time she left the driveway and losing some of that beloved 4.7 inches of travel may not be the best answer. Yah I know lotsa people do it, but............ Anyway. Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
Good points pakerfan. Another reason I am leaning towards the adjustable link, I can go from stock to 2" lowered if I want. I added a custom backrest from Grasshopper to support her forward a bit. She is fine with the handlebars. Only time she has a little issue is when going full lock in a parking lot but she manages.

Thanks for the points. We will do a little change at a time.
 

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And my wife had trouble lock to lock in the parking lot too. Hence the seat and handlebar mods and moving the foot controls forward by guys who were well meaning but didn't understand the negative implications of what they were doing. Talked with the guys at Ness in Las Vegas and in hindsight, should have taken the bike there first. They would have custom made a seat for her and whatever seat pan mods they would do before ever touching the suspension to get her feet as close to flat as possible. Just make sure you do your homework so she has a great, long time ride.
 

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Kickstand

Can I heat and bend my kickstand or will it break?
I can't put the kickstand down on many streets because
the road is curved.
A shorter kickstand cost too much
 

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kick stand

first back in and cross the space. You may also google shortten kickstands for motorcycle. Ive seen them for around thirty bucks. Dont remember the site but did this and lots to be had at the time
 

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Can I heat and bend my kickstand or will it break?
I can't put the kickstand down on many streets because
the road is curved.
A shorter kickstand cost too much
NO NO you can't heat the kickstand. It will weaken the metal and sooner then later bike will fall over.
Buy a short one or if you have a after market shop normaly they have a press ask them to bend it. You need about a 1/8" of bend in it
 

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Lowered Bike

I can relate. I am 5-5 with 29" inseam. Have a 2012 Ness XC. Initially went with the 2-3" HMD drop kit. Worked great at 2" by my self. However when ever my wife wanted to ride had to bump shock pressure up very high, was pretty rough ride. Finally went with the adjustable lowering link, and love it. You can adjust it when ever needed to what ever height by only removing the left side cover and using a wrench. I did install a custom 4" pull back mitered Bar, made a huge difference with control. Suspension is all stock. I would not touch the suspension shock at all... I did not change the front suspension and it handles great. I noticed no difference from stock height to lowered height as far as handling goes. I did design and have manufactured and floor board relocation bracket for the right and left drivers floor boards. It moves the floor boards out 3/4" and moves the entire assembly back 1". Doesn't sound like a lot but it really makes a difference in comfort. My local dealer is selling them now. If you want more info. Let me know. I know exactly what you are dealing with. email me at [email protected] Bill
 

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can't figure it out

Hi Everyone, First, I will say that I'm sorry I can't get this on my own. I have studied the parts diagram of the CCT/CC/CR suspension, and I can't figure out why a lowering link should make a change in the ride quality, unless of course you bottom the tire on the fender, that would hurt both you and the bike, but I'm talking about say an inch to two max. It seems from looking at the diagram, that the shock would stay in the same position and range of stroke, and that the difference would be the swing arm relationship, parallel to the road, What am I missing ?:crzy:
 

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You know Victory sells a seat that lowers the seat height one inch. That may be a better option than lowering by way of suspension if all you are looking for is one inch.
 

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You know Victory sells a seat that lowers the seat height one inch. That may be a better option than lowering by way of suspension if all you are looking for is one inch.
Hi, Vic 1, If you are referring to me, I'm doing it for looks. Love the Vic CCs back end, and think it looks very 50's with its ass dragging, bit I'm not willing to go that far, and lose practicality. Of course an air shock with onboard comprssor would be cool. I was lookin on ebay at Gold wing pumps and wondering.........:confused::confused:
 
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