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OK...here's The Good, The Bad and the Ugly!

The Good
Excellent craftsmanship and the windshield quality if TOP NOTCH!! Very happy with this aspect of my purchase. Being able to either look through OR look over the windshield put a smile on my face!!! I got the medium tint...another good move, the clarity is excellent.

The Bad
I actually got caught in some rain and on the way back home I noticed that water was POOLING on both sides of the fairing dash (the black part on the outside of the brace on each side)...So not only was this annoying, but it would be very easy for this "pool" of water to flow inside the fairing (yeah, I know it gets wet in there anyway...but this doesn't help matters any). I never saw this with the OEM shield.

The OTHER Bad
The other annoying thing I noticed was that both sides of the shield (that extend beyond the windshield brackets) vibrated. The OEM shield did not vibrate.

The Ugly
OK...the MadStad System is really not ugly. It's not super pretty either, but I believe the TINTED shields do make it look better.

The Conclusion
OK...Actually, my conclusion is still out. I want to ride with the shield on for a while longer and I'd also like to go ahead and test the rain issue I spoke of earlier. So I will reserve my final judgement for later.

Now here's a few specifics about my setup just in case anyone wanted to know.

I have the 13" MEDIUM TINT Cross Country Shield. I have it at 60 degrees (recommended), and about 2/3 of the way up...the shield is level with my mid forehead (above my eyes).

The use of Rejex makes this windshield even better. What does Rejex do? It's similar to RainX except it can even be used on paint, but it's not a wax...it's a polymer. (NOTE: It sure looks and acts like a wax though). But it does work, and it works VERY WELL.

http://www.rejex.com/rejex.html
 

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I have a Madstad bracket system (bracket only) on order. I'm going to use the brackets with my Klock Werks flare to try to get rid of some buffeting. I do have some dirty air coming up from below. Looks like I'll be investing in some fork mounted lowers soon...

Thanks for the review


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Buffeting has never been a problem on my bike (unless I'm passing an 18 wheeler in New Mexico). :)
 

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I installed the Madstad shield and brackets near the beginning of last season, and did not notice the rain problem you had. BUT, there are a lot of differences:

- I'm 5'9", 30" inseam, and got the 11" system. I look way over the windshield. Not knocking your preferences, but I never like to look through a windshield. (Where I live, if it's really cold out -- when I might want all the wind protection I could get -- there's probably also snow and salt on the roads, so I park the bike in the garage for the winter.)

- I usually have my shield positioned about halfway in the upper groove, the groove that the knobs control. If it's very hot, I'll tilt the shield such that the top of it is lower in those grooves.

- I've never moved the shield out of its bottom-most position in the lower J groove, the groove that's controlled by bolts. That is, I've left that the way it came.

I remember last summer when I first encountered some significant rain. I took my left hand off the bars and moved it all around behind and over and under the shield for a few minutes, conducting my own science experiment on the interstate. What I found was the rain that was coming underneath the shield promptly curved up behind the shield, and then joined up with the rain that was flowing up over the top. That is, my results were that the air pattern was just as pictured in the flow diagram at Madstad's site ( http://www.madstad.com/ , and then click on the "Click Here" link in the red text).

But, as I say, there are all the differences in the way we have it set, our heights, preferences, and the 11" vs. the 13". So, all of this is FWIW and YMMV.
 

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Bill...did you notice any vibration on the ends of the windshield?

In case I was unclear. I did not get wet during the rain...but what I saw was pooled water (that I never saw with the OEM) on the fairing dash on both sides next to the brackets. This may or may not be a problem...just an observation.
 

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Interesting reviews guys. I ordered the Madstad brackets for my XC before I even got her home. I intend to use the stock blade with the brackets and see how it works. I have a lot of head buffeting over about 55 or so. So I need something for sure. Months sure yet about dirty air from under the fairing. I won't be able to tell until I address the head buffeting. Given I'm in Arizona, I'm not overly concerned with the rain aspect.
 

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Kinda surprised no mentioned the Rejex though...GOOD STUFF. Better (so far) than anything else I have used.
 

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Bill...did you notice any vibration on the ends of the windshield?

In case I was unclear. I did not get wet during the rain...but what I saw was pooled water (that I never saw with the OEM) on the fairing dash on both sides next to the brackets. This may or may not be a problem...just an observation.
I didn't notice any pooling, but I wasn't really looking for it. So, I can't really comment on that. As to vibration, I haven't noticed that either, dry or wet, and I think I would have; maybe that has something to do with 11" v. 13" (or not -- don't really know). You didn't over-torque those grommets, did you?

BTW, I have Rejex in my garage. I hadn't used it in a few years (been trying other stuff), and when I went back to it this past summer, just for yuks, I gotta tell you: that stuff really smells bad, after it's been sitting for some number of years (5?). Yep, good stuff, though. I also use CorrosionX, which I think is made by the same folks.
 

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While they may serve a practical purpose for some, I cant get by the look of seeing the windscreens jacked up. Kinda seems like the bike has been bastardized - as though the shield doesn't fit. Don't get me wrong, if it works for you and you like it, more power to ya. Just not my cup of tea. I'll stick with my Gustafsson Euroflip. BTW, I'm 6'3" so function is quite necessary (as well as having it look like an integrated part.)
 

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I agree Jim (toejam), that the shield on your bike looks WAY better than my Madstad setup, but I can't see over anything that gives me good protection from buffeting. If all manufactures had "try before you buy" on all their shields I would be willing to try others...
As to rain, I have been in downpours and did notice some water on the backside. I wouldn't call it pooling however. It didn't hurt anything either way (have RF amp mounted in fairing)
 

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I use the madstad brackets as well with my stock shield. I'm still not crazy about the way they look. They do work ok at the lower speeds but once i get up to highway speed i still get quite a bit of buffeting. I have noticed there is 2 different types of buffeting on the XC. Top and bottom. I came up with my own lowers to remedy the bottom buffeting and eliminated it 100%. My conclusion, The brackets will not completely cure the buffeting on the XC. You have to have something down below as well. I think I'm going to sell my brackets and switch to the klockwerks or the windvest flip shield.
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I agree Jim (toejam), that the shield on your bike looks WAY better than my Madstad setup, but I can't see over anything that gives me good protection from buffeting. If all manufactures had "try before you buy" on all their shields I would be willing to try others...
As to rain, I have been in downpours and did notice some water on the backside. I wouldn't call it pooling however. It didn't hurt anything either way (have RF amp mounted in fairing)
Sorry bro, wasn't meant as any kind of personal attack at your choice (or anyone elses). With the Euroflip it directs the wind just over the top of my forehead while still being able to look over the shield. :D
 

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Having used the KlockWerks Flare for my first season and the Madstad 11"/brackets combo for the second, my observations are:

- The Flare looks better, but the Madstad doesn't look that bad (because there is a lot of black in that area anyway, to sort of go with the brackets).

- Shields such as the Flare, the Euroflip, and so forth are fine... but only if they work for you, if you get the right height (if they're available in different heights). You have the variables of: how long your torso is; whether you want to look over a shield (and by how much); what sort of helmet do you wear; what sort of lowers/winglets/fork deflectors, if any, do you have; how hot or cold you ride in (some folks change their shields, based on parts of the season); and probably other factors.

In my case -- average size, modular helmet, XCT wind management, usually moderate temps -- the Flare worked fine. But when I'd swap bikes with my much taller riding buddy, he got too much buffeting. I bought the Madstad system just to try something else, and given that it was adjustable; it turns out, for me, that I don't adjust it much, and it works fine for me, too.

So, I think that a bunch of experimentation is required if you want to get this right. Just sell the ones you don't want, cheap, to other riders here, and everyone gets a shot at multiple shields. See the links to five aftermarket suppliers in the "Aftermarket Windshields for the Victory Cross Country Tour" section, near the very bottom of webBikeWorld's XCT review, http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-reviews/victory-cross-country-tour-review/ .

Here are a couple Flare and Madstad pics on my XCT.
 

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To the OP I posted on your other thread, but we can talk about it in this thread. I rode 3000 miles with my Madtstad in 6 days through all kinds of weather.

I wanted a shield that I could look over that eliminated the buffeting. I am 6 feet with a tall torso and a Day-Long saddle that sits me up higher in the saddle than the stock seat did. I got the original 13" screen, but I would still get some buffeting with my DOT half helmet. I drove to FL with the 13" and got a 14" widened version from Mark at Madstad while I was there and rode home on 95N 1100 miles at about 75-80 mph.

When I installed the system I used some cheap weatherstripping to cover the holes that were now exposed. The stock screen slips into this slot. The Madstad does not. I did not notice any pooling. There was very little vibration on the windshield if at all. I did play with the settings extensively until I got it right. I took the paper with me and drove up and down the highway. I was looking for zero buffeting at 80mph. I did achieve this goal and I still look over the top of the screen if looking down the road. Anything within 10' in front of me I am looking through the screen.

I had the stock touring screen when I bought the bike and it stayed on for 5 miles. I installed the KW Flare. That was awesome until I installed the Day-Long saddle and suddenly it was too short. I ordered the Cee Baileys Dragon at 19" as suggested by their tech. It came off after 3 miles. It directed all the wind right into my face. I called and complained and they stated their was a 20% restock fee plus shipping. That was a waste of $200. Anyone want one?

So when I got the Madstad I was not sold until I rode it and played with it a lot and then I got the 14" version. I was sold on the way home from Daytona to CT.

I would ride and adjust the screen for a bit. The stock screen is well secured so I do not think you will get that slight vibration out of it unless you do not have it angled precisely. I did notice that there is a small sweet spot for that screen and you, and once you achieve it you may like it a lot more.
 

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Thank you Dave...this is nice to know. This is also another reason why I am not jumping into selling the brackets or either of the two MadStad Windshields UNTIL I have done some more riding.

I KNOW what I'm looking for...been riding since I was in my 20's. To be honest, I'm fine with the TALL STOCK OEM windshield...EXCEPT in fog. And that is the problem I'm try to address...as I do a lot of rides through the Smoky Mountains and the Ozarks of Arkansas....riding in FOG on a bike with a "LOOK THROUGH" windshield can be challenging to say the least.

Thanks for your insights and advice. Well done sir!!!
 

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I will be looking for a different shield on my XCT - it's way too high for me - I'm a short little **** and I hate looking thru a screen! I would like not to dick around with different shields til I find one - I went thru 5 different screens on my last Nomad with the Harley style fairing and it get exspensive! I think the 11" would fit the bill - I am just not sure if the boss would want the Roadglide style or the standard size? If she ain't happy - no one is happy!!thumb up
 

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Another Madstad convert here

As some of you know, I was one of the early proponants for the KW screen and promoted that screen and helped others avoid getting cracks. I still think it is THE BEST LOOKING screen available for these bikes.

However, I ran across a guy who was selling his Madstad system for a fire sale price (He totalled his bike before he got the chance to put it on his bike) so I picked it up and tried it out. It came with the Madstad 11-inch screen which is thicker than the KW.

Originally I had thought that I might put the KW on the Madstad brackets but decided that since the KW was only about 1/2 as thick as the Madstad 11-inch one I did not want to risk cracking it on the Madstad system so I never mounted it to that system. The KW design has it "tucking in" behind the cowling/fairing which probably provides it additional stability. The Madstad once adjusted can throw the wind/rain about 2 to 3 inches higher than the KW was able to do. The KW wasn't bad as the air hit the top of my helmet but with the Madstad, the wind stream now clears my head by 2 or 3 inches. I am 5'10" tall but have short legs 29-inch and so my head sits closer to a typical 6-footer.

I sold my KW to another member from one of these forums for a good price (pay it forward, right?) I also sold my original OEM screen to another guy here.
 
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