This isn't a what tire to get thread. This is just to bitch about how crappy the stock dunlops are on the steel frames. They just don't make me feel comfortable no matter what kinda condition I ride in. Rain is absolutely scary now with the little mods that I have done. You have to baby around to keep them from slipping. Ma vic there are better tires out there. I'm sure you can get them for close to the same price as you are paying now. Please do us a favor and get us better tires!!!