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Stopped by a local victory dealer and decided a Cross Country needs to be in my garage in the very near future. Didn't think about this at the time.

Will ask the dealer when I return but does anyone know why are the mirrors "objects are closer than they appear"? Why not normal view?
 

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All vehicles mirrors are like this because of the size. Look at yourself in a full size wrap around clothing store mirror - viola you're life sized. Look at yourself in a small handheld mirror - if you want to see full body you'll have to prop it up and step back about 20'.
 

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I know why they are like that . I was just wondering why they would put them on a motorcycle. On cars only the passenger side is marked. First time I see this on a motorcycle.

The driver's side window is a flat mirror, like the kind you find in your bathroom. The passenger side window, however, has a convex or "wide angle" surface. In other words, wide angle mirrors bulge outwards.
 

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I know why they are like that.
If you know, why are you asking? :p

I was just wondering why they would put them on a motorcycle.
They allow you to see a wider angle behind yourself. In cars, slightly convexed mirrors reduce the blind spot area, while on motorcycles they give you a chance to see more of what's behind you in an already tiny mirror. ;)
 

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If you know, why are you asking? :p



They allow you to see a wider angle behind yourself. In cars, slightly convexed mirrors reduce the blind spot area, while on motorcycles they give you a chance to see more of what's behind you in an already tiny mirror. ;)
I just think that on motorcycles it's not a good idea to have objects closer than they appear. Just my opinion. Anyway...............
 

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I just think that on motorcycles it's not a good idea to have objects closer than they appear. Just my opinion. Anyway...............
Ideally you wouldn't, but also ideally you'd see everything behind you, not just 10% of the field behind. And to do so, you'd be riding with semi truck mirrors on the bike. ;)

Motorcycle mirrors are not the most useful mirrors - it's much better to turn your head and get the full picture when you need to.
 

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But, to take it in another direction, the stock mirrors are pretty darn small. Anyone recommend a larger good looking mirror?
 

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I just think that on motorcycles it's not a good idea to have objects closer than they appear. Just my opinion. Anyway...............
"Opinions" are like a$$holes...we all have them and they all stink.....:ltr: all joking aside...you need all the coverage you can get on a bike...a blind spot can get you killed....its what you don't see that can kill you......thumb up
 

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rmd, seems like these guys jumped all over you for expressing your opinion ...... you are correct in that most (not all) motorcycles do not use convex mirrors. So its a matter of what you are use to. I came to Victory not use to the convex mirror or the small size of the mirror on my XC. I lived with it for a while and replaced the mirrors with larger "normal" mirrors. It just worked better for me and I put one of those little convex rotatible mirrors on each fixed mirror and all is well - also put a larger stem on the mirror. Its not an expensive fix if you just are not comfortable with the small convex mirrors.
 

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Besides a larger field of vision; the convex mirrors give less distortion when they vibrate a little. I like the functionality of these Kury large/long-stemmed Eclipse mirrors but there are better ones for looks if that's more important to you. For looks I think the scythe mirrors look cool on XC's.

 

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rmd, seems like these guys jumped all over you for expressing your opinion ...... you are correct in that most (not all) motorcycles do not use convex mirrors. So its a matter of what you are use to. I came to Victory not use to the convex mirror or the small size of the mirror on my XC. I lived with it for a while and replaced the mirrors with larger "normal" mirrors. It just worked better for me and I put one of those little convex rotatible mirrors on each fixed mirror and all is well - also put a larger stem on the mirror. Its not an expensive fix if you just are not comfortable with the small convex mirrors.
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After some searching I decided revive this thread as it comes close to answering my problem.

With my stock mirrors I can barely see around my arms and I'm always trying to tuck my elbows to see what's behind me. Now that it's getting cold and I'm wearing a coat I can't see much of anything no matter what.

I don't think bigger mirrors are the answer, instead I think extensions or longer mirror pedestals would do the trick.

Any recommendations?

Thanks,
Bob
 

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After some searching I decided revive this thread as it comes close to answering my problem.

With my stock mirrors I can barely see around my arms and I'm always trying to tuck my elbows to see what's behind me. Now that it's getting cold and I'm wearing a coat I can't see much of anything no matter what.

I don't think bigger mirrors are the answer, instead I think extensions or longer mirror pedestals would do the trick.

Any recommendations?

Thanks,
Bob
+1 I am having the same problem, especially from the left mirror. Personally I like the looks of the stock mirrors, they are very similar to the ones I had on my VTX. I am getting used to the "Closer Objects" thing.
 

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After some searching I decided revive this thread as it comes close to answering my problem.

With my stock mirrors I can barely see around my arms and I'm always trying to tuck my elbows to see what's behind me. Now that it's getting cold and I'm wearing a coat I can't see much of anything no matter what.

I don't think bigger mirrors are the answer, instead I think extensions or longer mirror pedestals would do the trick.

Any recommendations?

Thanks,
Bob
If you haven't already, loosen the mirror stem nut at the bars and move the stems so that the mirrors are in the most outward position. May be OK for you. Just a thought.
 

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After some searching I decided revive this thread as it comes close to answering my problem.

With my stock mirrors I can barely see around my arms and I'm always trying to tuck my elbows to see what's behind me. Now that it's getting cold and I'm wearing a coat I can't see much of anything no matter what.

I don't think bigger mirrors are the answer, instead I think extensions or longer mirror pedestals would do the trick.

Any recommendations?

Thanks,
Bob
A recommendation?.........turn your head and shoulder-check. It's a lost art for automobile drivers!
 

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If you haven't already, loosen the mirror stem nut at the bars and move the stems so that the mirrors are in the most outward position. May be OK for you. Just a thought.
I have tried that myself to no advantage. I have a decent field of view from my right mirror, the left one is the issue for me. Pretty sure the difference is the angle of the mount. The left perch is rotatated a tad more forward compared to the right which drops the mirror a tad. I tried rotating it, but then everytime I grabbed the clutch it would contact the Menu switch. Took me a few miles to figure out what was happening, I initially thought my display was going nuts LOL

A recommendation?.........turn your head and shoulder-check. It's a lost art for automobile drivers!
Can't speak for others, but for myself, I always turn my head and look before making any lateral move.

What I want out of my mirrors is to be able to see what is coming up on me in advance of it already being in my blind spot:cool: I am constantly glancing at my mirrors to keep track of what is going on behind me. Must be my age, but my neck won't turn to the point I can look fully behind me without significantly altering my body position, which would not be the safest thing to do at 75mph on the superslab:rolleyes:
 

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On every mirror on all of our vehicles (well, not on the car's interior rearview mirror), we install the circular (fisheye) mirrors, available from most auto parts stores, on top of our vehicle mirrors. For the bikes, I install them on the upper right/left corners (upper right for the right mirror, upper left for the left mirror). For the cars, I find the lower corners better but that's just my preference. These alleviate the blindspots nicely.
 
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