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I'll be thankful when the weather breaks so I can ride it instead of finding more things to change. Barnett scorpion clutch install complete....
 

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We are going to want a full report after you are back on the road. Cheers.
 

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Will do. Just waiting for the tuning kit from Mr. 801 so we can establish a base tune. Then get some break in miles and then a performance tuning session...then the dyno for a HP run!!!
 

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I'll be thankful when the weather breaks so I can ride it instead of finding more things to change. Barnett scorpion clutch install complete....
What spring combo did you use with the Scorpion?...I used 3 heaviest gold and 3 lightest green I think to hold the power but the clutch effort on my old arthritic hand was over the top so I went to the Barnett diaphragm spring and billet cover plate,
however on last look at the cover plate its scored from dragstrip launches most likely so Ill soon be going back to the stock green stripe spring and stock cover plate at 114/124 the stock clutch will be adequate.
The overkill clutch was hell on my hand, this ones tolerable but with the scoring Im taking it right back.
Which springs are you using? and whats your guess on output of the engine?
 

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What spring combo did you use with the Scorpion?...I used 3 heaviest gold and 3 lightest green I think to hold the power but the clutch effort on my old arthritic hand was over the top so I went to the Barnett diaphragm spring and billet cover plate,
however on last look at the cover plate its scored from dragstrip launches most likely so Ill soon be going back to the stock green stripe spring and stock cover plate at 114/124 the stock clutch will be adequate.
The overkill clutch was hell on my hand, this ones tolerable but with the scoring Im taking it right back.
Which springs are you using? and whats your guess on output of the engine?
As far as the springs go...that's kind of a story. They only sent me black springs assembled in the clutch. So I called and after a few minutes of interogation and me sending them some pictures they stated that they would send me the missing springs; DUH! I was unimpressed with there customer service at this point. So, I then asked for his recommendation as far as springs. I told him I would be making about 150hp/tq. He stated to use the heaviest ones. I asked what HP/TQ they were rated at and his was response was "we don't put numbers with our springs since each engine runs a little different"......I advised that I was concerned about the clutch pull and wanted it as light as possible but still hold. He then stated that I needed to use the heaviest springs, gold, especially since the Victory clutches were so hard to work on.............Needless to say I am even less impressed and disappointed. The compression tool that I bought for dis-assembly wasn't machined correctly either and I spent an hour clearancing the bushing so that it would fit over the tool and lifter shaft...I didn't even bother bringing that up to them. I am hopeful that the clutch is better than there customer service and there technical guys knowledge. The cables fit ok, but I would liked to have the actual cable, not the sheath, about a 1/4 inch shorter; but they work.

AS far as performance, I am anticipating somewhere in the 140 - 150's...time will tell that story!
 

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if you're using the heaviest springs youll wanna be Superman or the Terminator to hold the lever in for any length of time...
How strong is your left hand?
at least the Scorpion springs are easy enough to change to suit and you don't need special tools to do it.
you shouldve got 4 sets with it but you can mix n match, one of my threads gives all the combos and total spring pressures.
With the Scorpion springs the effort is full on when the lever is all the way in.
Whereas with a diaphragm once you pass a certain point and the levers all the way in then the spring goes easy on you.

EDIT..You may find if youre big on numbers youll need the Lloydz centrifugal clutch or a very strong left hand.
Are you gonna be doing dragstrip launches too? @half_crazy is the real expert on what various clutches will handle
 

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who built your motor. Sounds like its going to be a beast
 

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EDIT..You may find if youre big on numbers youll need the Lloydz centrifugal clutch or a very strong left hand.
Are you gonna be doing dragstrip launches too? @half_crazy is the real expert on what various clutches will handle
Not planning on too many drag strip runs, just a street beast. I think HC is running a stock clutch with an upgraded diaphram spring. I was going to do that as well, but too much idle time in the basement lended itself to the Barnett...Not a big Lloydz fan, nothing against them, just not a fan...
 

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nvr_fst_enuf

who built your motor. Sounds like its going to be a beast
Its a basement build. My dad and I have done everything with the exception of the head and valve work...and the bore and re-sleeve.
 

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Not planning on too many drag strip runs, just a street beast. I think HC is running a stock clutch with an upgraded diaphram spring. I was going to do that as well, but too much idle time in the basement lended itself to the Barnett...Not a big Lloydz fan, nothing against them, just not a fan...
"not planning on too many drag strip runs"...my suggestion is do absolutely none then because its very addictive.
A bit like having one drink and walking outta the bar to go home.
Some can do it...I never could
 

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You may find if youre big on numbers you'll need the Lloydz centrifugal clutch or a very strong left hand.
Are you gonna be doing dragstrip launches too? @half_crazy is the real expert on what various clutches will handle
Oh no, I'm not the expert.

My clutch is stock with just a spring added. Lever effort ain't bad, holds my 140-some-odd ft-lbs of torque just fine, and has lasted over 100K miles and still feels fine. Then again, I don't beat the clutch up.
 

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thought I would provide a little update. Still having issues with getting the Hammer to run properly. Bottom line, the front cylinder is really really lean. Pretty much stumped at this point. Have been working with [email protected] with his remote tune set up for a while now. He has the front injector at 95% capacity to get the front hole to light, at idle. :eek:eek:mad:mad

Oh so gently with a can of ether on a straw, sprayed around the injector and throttle body. When I shot the throttle body rubber adapter on the exhaust side of the bike, the RPM's changed...So, I replaced the adapter and o-ring seal. Tried running it again tonight and same result; front cylinder way lean......

Pretty much stumped at this point, but not defeated!! Anyone have any ideas??

On another note, I removed the Lloydz wheel and fuel controller and added the Maximus to my XC and started tuning it. Hopefully, we'll button that up tomorrow afternoon...
 
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