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So...I got my newest Motorcycling mag in the mail yesterday. I saw they did a review of the CC. My grubby paws fumbled to the right page and I started reading. Bottom line....they liked it but weren't impressed. They rated it 3.5 out of 5. Pretty mediocre. I love my CCT, and started thinking about some of their comments.

They didn't like the cruise control.....neither do I. That is something Victory really needs to address. It is "juky",and sometimes mine jumps around a little when I set it. And the cruise control and stereo control pods are a very poor design feature. Can you say "afterthought".

I do love the ride quality and storage, and easy oil changes. Mine engine is stock, and I don't personally see it as any more powerful than any of my friends Harley's...that are all pretty much stock. I have ridden several....Road Kings, Street Glides, Electra Glides. I really don't like the Victory tranny. NOT smooth, especially at slow speeds. So...IMO, Victory got some things very right......but there is room for improvement. I have just over 5k miles on mine in 3 1/2 months. Mostly happy, but not blinded! It does have the best road manners of any bike I have ever ridden on the highway.

Oh yeah...it certainly does get a lot of attention when I pull in somewhere, which is one reason I didn't buy a Harley. Don't want to be in the club. Hey how many t-shirts do you have?

So...actually when I personally think critically...3.5 is probably pretty close.
 

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I don't know, I have to disagree, I just did a 5700 mile road trip in 12 days and I loved every minute of it, we had days where we did 900 miles in 15 hours and days we did 350 in 12, I never get tired of my CC


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I have rode MC's for a long time I have owned a Harley 57. Rode Cushmans and Honda's. Owned two Moto Guzzi's a 71 and a 79 G5 which had the interconnected rear and fount brakes the first bike to offer this wow what an improvement in braking. When I was riding the Guzzi's they almost always got poor reviews in the MC Magazines. But if you read the reviews on the other bikes they would have the same problems pointed out. But it was OK on these bikes and not on the Guzzi. I wrote it off to who spent the most on Advertisement. If a bike brand is spending lots of money to advertise in your Mag your not going to say very many bad things about there bikes or you will play down the problems.
 

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I got to agree the cruise control is not the best,but it is a hell of alot better than a throttle lock or a thumb screw that locks the throttle as some bigger motorcycle company has done it for years. Now the trans yes not the smoothest. One of the smoothest that I recently experienced was on a 2012 MotoGuzzi Grizzo, smoothest ever I think out of any bike made that I have rode over the years. I have an older Guzzi and it is not a smooth easy shifting transmission on it,so if they can improve the transmission I am sure other companies could also. Now I must say it seems that since my CrossRoads has went over 10,000 miles it seems like the transmission is much easier to shift and smoother. I was thinking the other day,it seems crazy, but it is easier to shift, I guess it is worn in correctly or is getting their. So I was thinking maybe these magazines ought to do some write ups on the bikes, not after a easy 1000 miles or even 5000 miles, but say after 10K and then 20k. They could even compare some of the touring bikes after a few miles as I mentioned. Lots of people put well over 10K a year on their bikes (ones not tied up in the shops for repairs) and I know lots of cases were people put over 20,000 miles a year. When I only had a Gold Wing a few years back I put 20,000 miles on it in one year, and it was pretty beat when I got it. So how about some real long term test. Another interesting write up might be on maintenance required on rental bikes over say a 20,000 span. It could make for an interesting read and I wonder how many people would be swayed to or away from a purchase if they really seen true cost of upkeep over the long term. Come on " Motorcyclist" magazine some bull headed riders want to know, do some real long term test and let us see and judge the results of the test.thumb up
 

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If I can ride and ride with just a little clunk happening because of the tranny I am happy. An oil change here, a tire there and that's it then I'm happy.
I've got 10,000 on my 2013 XCT so far. After the 4th of July weekend there will be close to 15,000 and by it's birthday in late Oct. in will [probably have close to 20,000.

WITH NO MAJOR REPAIRS (that a 5 in my book)
 

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Don't think any Motorcycle does not have room for some improvements depending on what a Rider is looking for .. I agree with the Cruise and Pods both can use a little more finesse.. I have no problems with the tranny a bit clunky but seems solid after 12,500 miles put on my XC .. My Vote would be a Solid 4 out of 5 on my XC and very happy with it .. 40+ years of Riding most makes, never had a Bike would give a Total 5, but will give my FXR4 a 4.5 as for a 14 year old Bike with 40K, still runs and looks like new with no major maintenance needed yet ..
 

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So...I got my newest Motorcycling mag in the mail yesterday.
I read that too and I think the article itself was fair and accurate. I was kinda surprised by the low rating too.

The clunky transmission works fine, it's probably just an adjustment for people who spend the majority of time riding bikes that aren't trying to clone some aspect of HD.

Brakes are a legitimate issue, though I will say the ABS brakes on the Vision and XC I demo'd felt pretty good. I actually got scolded by one of the guides who thought I was trying to do stoppies. I was told to "respect the bikes." Well hell, if stomping on the brakes is going to hurt it, I don't want it.

I never had a problem with the cruise control hunting, but it does sometimes take a couple of stabs at the button before it engages. Maybe it behaves funny on hills? And yeah aesthetically it looks like an afterthought.

Buffeting is a problem, but I think it's inherent to the style of bikes. Probably should only give extra credit points to a company that can produce the style without creating the head rattling. Ditto for the bars that seem too far away during exercises that test the steering stops.

Given that it exceeds the class in so many other areas I thought perhaps a 4 would be more in order. If the XC is a 3.5 a Streetglide would have to be about a 2.5.
 

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What is the yardstick?

Bike rags. I don't believe their opinions when they fawn all over a bike any more than I believe them when they talk down.
Pop has rubbed elbows with motorcycle press enough to know that, at the end of the day the info you get from an owner you jaw with in the watering hole is as valid as the reports in 90% of the articles. Just as critically thought out and just as tinged with personal viewpoint.

Here, let Pop take a crack at it. Something like...

We put the three test mules through through their paces in a grueling schedule of Napa Valley wine tastings and although the cloudless 75 degree skies pounded our designer composite yet breathable riding togs we couldn't help but marvel at the acceleration of the big brutes, as pronounced as the subtle earth notes of the Valleys premier Estate Merlot although both the machines and the grapes seemed to exude a raw power in the lush California hills.

Plus the pages are too shiny to absorb the mess in the bottom of the bird cage.
 

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Pop, I think I read that same write up somewhere before! If I had to rate my XR from a 1 to 5 scale then it would probably get a 3.5 as well but then again I have not been on a bike yet that met all my expectations and doubt I ever will. I had my first problem with my cruise on Saturday. Got caught in some rain on Friday on a short trip to the gas station and on Saturday the cruise would not work at all till near the end of my 250 mile ride. Looks like I'll be adding some electric grease to it this week.
 

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So what all of you owners are saying is you bought just another motorcycle... Middle of the road nothing special....

Must take a lot to impress you folks.

I came from a Gold Wing 1800 and switched to the 2013 XCT. Love the bike, love the handling, love the air managment. Plus I go further on a gallon of gas than the wing! Bonus!!!

Nobody ever came up to me and asked how I like my Wing. Happens all the time with the XCT.

You folks need to get out and ride more.
 

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I came from a Gold Wing 1800 and switched to the 2013 XCT. Love the bike, love the handling, love the air managment. Plus I go further on a gallon of gas than the wing! Bonus!!!

Nobody ever came up to me and asked how I like my Wing. Happens all the time with the XCT.
My experience mirrors this. However, you do have the correct color bike... cheers
 

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I could not be happier with my choice of bike. It runs as fast as I dare to push it. Ask anyone who rides with me, I do push it. Aside from normal maintence items, no issues at all. The cruise is not as refined as the one on my $35,000 truck, but it holds me at whatever speed I want it to.

Picked it up new on 2/16/2012. I'll turn 43,000 miles this week.

Like I said, I could not be happier.


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i've had my xc alittle over a month, have about 2200 miles and my only real complaint is transmission, the clunk doesn't bother me( even tho i get some looks in parking lots) what bothers me is when i shift, very common, it will hit a wall and not go into the next gear. I'm not speeding around on it, i will lift the lever and it will hit a wall and ill hold it there until it goes into gear, but sometimes it feels like it only goes half and stops, when it does that, i now have to ease out the clutch and try to feather it in, if that doesn't work i have to shift down and try again. twice now it has "half shifted" and fallen back into a lower gear, i can imagine this is not good on the transmission and i do what i can to avoid it. i know my other victories have gotten much smoother with more miles, so I'm hoping that will work out the same.

As others have said, cruise kinda sucks but i only use it to stretch my hand. i dont like having my hand on the throttle when its on anyway, and it gets worse fuel economy. I also wish i could reach the radio controls with the clutch in but i dont really see a fix for that with out cluttering everything in to close, so ill deal with it.

Still love the bike and expect to keep for some time.
 

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I have had my bike a year and half and almost 20,000 miles. I didn't read THAT article, but I have read others. I also don't agree with the 3.5/5.0 rating, but also agree that for a bike to hit 5.0 is almost impossible...for that matter, a 4.5 would be pretty darn hard. The "nature of the beast" makes it almost impossible to provide all that comfort and handling without sacrificing SOMETHING.

I would give it a 4.0 though. I haven't had any issues with the cruise (but I don't use it that much), I don't have any issues with buffeting (I have the TALL windshield), and the ABS brakes have ALREADY saved me once!!

There are some flaws. It's hot in the box and I don't believe air system works as well as some of you say it does. The paint job (or at least clear coat) SUCKS big time on this bike, and then my biggest gripe...they haven't supported their product by continuing to add more accessories to their list in a fast enough manner. Mainly things like TRUNK LINERS, or STEREO upgrades.

But the bottom line is the bike has beautiful lines, it handles very well, it has a tremendous amount of storage and most of all...IT'S FUN TO RIDE!!!

It is the best bike out of the 7 bikes I have owned over the past 30+ years I have been riding.
 

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What is the yardstick?

Bike rags. I don't believe their opinions when they fawn all over a bike any more than I believe them when they talk down.
Pop has rubbed elbows with motorcycle press enough to know that, at the end of the day the info you get from an owner you jaw with in the watering hole is as valid as the reports in 90% of the articles. Just as critically thought out and just as tinged with personal viewpoint.

Here, let Pop take a crack at it. Something like...

We put the three test mules through through their paces in a grueling schedule of Napa Valley wine tastings and although the cloudless 75 degree skies pounded our designer composite yet breathable riding togs we couldn't help but marvel at the acceleration of the big brutes, as pronounced as the subtle earth notes of the Valleys premier Estate Merlot although both the machines and the grapes seemed to exude a raw power in the lush California hills.

Plus the pages are too shiny to absorb the mess in the bottom of the bird cage.
I don't care who you are.....that's dang funny!

My bottom line for even bringing this up was.....I sure hope Victory addresses some of their shortcomings, because they have done so many things well in a short period of time. All bikes have em.....none are perfect, especially when you factor in everyone's personal preferences. I would buy my exact same bike again if I were a buyer now. But, after owning it and getting comfortable with it....I had higher expectations in a few areas. I for one am happy with the brakes....they seem responsive to me, and I have hit them hard more than once.
 

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I for one am happy with the brakes....they seem responsive to me, and I have hit them hard more than once.
It's all relative. But it's that kind of comparative info between bikes of a common type that are the kind of thing you aren't likely garner from the guy sitting next to you at the bar winking at the bar maid.

There is definitely a quality disparity among bike mag reviews, but even the worse ones are done by people who have spent a lot of seat time on a variety of models. To me, that is somewhat more meaningful than listening to a guy shout the brand of his bike followed by a guttural hu-rah!

To me, MCN is the at the top of the reviewing heap. They measure the same things on every bike they test and provide a thorough list of facts (like dyno charts) at the end for easy comparison between anything you're interested in. They do not take ad money so there is no argument that that plays into their write-ups.

Even MCN makes mistakes though. They did a write-up on the Judge and gave them props for equipping it with a cartridge fork. Problem is, it doesn't have one. If you read their review they talk about how the fork needs some adjustment to dial out the harsh compression over large bumps. What they were experiencing was of course the hydraulic lock of cheap damping rod forks. They correctly identified that design problem with the bike even if the PR person at Vic successfully BS'd them as to the fork's actual internals. If you paid attention to their article and care about such things, you'd know you were going to at best be adding the cost of some Race Tech gold valves if not replacing the entire forks as part of the cost of ownership. Such knowledge is a useful thing IMHO.
 

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But the bottom line is the bike has beautiful lines, it handles very well, it has a tremendous amount of storage and most of all...IT'S FUN TO RIDE!!!

It is the best bike out of the 7 bikes I have owned over the past 30+ years I have been riding.
DITTO! (except I've owned more than 7 ;-)
 

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My 2012 Hammer 8 ball is a little better than the Honda SL70 i got for my 8th birthday.

Never owned anything else.
Believe it, or not, all of my (honest) HD buddies, all rave about what a great looking bike I have.

Sorry to raid your Cross bike thread, but I'm one of the biggest Victory fans you will ever meet.
 

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I subscribe to American Iron magazine. The XC beat the HD SG in a shoot out a couple months ago, and the XCT beat out the HD EG a couple months before that.

Not sure what a brand has to do to get a 4 or more but the XC is definitely the best overall cruiser that I have ever ridden.
 
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