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After 3 years of enjoying the peace and quiet, as well as not disturbing my family when I fire up the bike at 4:30am to go to work, I'm getting ready to upgrade the exhaust. I talked to my dealer to make sure I don't void the remaining 2 years of my warrantee and he wants to do their custom recore job. He claims they've been dynode and average about a 5hp improvement when coupled with an Lloydz air intake and stage 1 flash and it won't hurt my warrantee. My question is would I be better off using one of the slip-ons that are available instead of the recore. It looks like by the time I've done the dealer exhaust with the air and stage 1 I'm going to be up to about $1200 or so. I plan to keep this bike the rest of my life so I'm ok with the expense, I just don't want to find out after the fact that I short changed myself. Any advice would be much appreciated. I know exhaust is already in a hundred other threads on here but I didn't see one addressing the comparison. Thanks, Dave
 

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stage one is overpriced, you can get more out of it buy building your own stage one setup.
 

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dtmmil here makes a nice set of pipes on which I have actually seen dyno results. Good sound, too. There is another member here that is also making pipes (and I made my own as well).
 

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The dealer said his recore job was about $800 installed. I work a lot of hours so I was pretty big on the idea of just having it done instead of trying to do it myself. I think he said the stage 1 remap was about $150 or so and something similar for the air filter. I was also thinking about having the 1/4 turn throttle ring installed while they have it. Does it sound like I'm about to mess up? I've got too many irons in the fire already, but, if I'd be that much better off I guess I could attempt to do the work myself.
 

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Well hey, then so be it. Sometimes it's just worth it to have someone do it for you, no harm in that. I just like to get my hands dirty lol.

As for the 1/4 ring, the bike should come like that from the factory; it's that good.
 

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Well you can buy a set of miller mufflers for around $400 and it takes an hr to install them. I think the reflash is a joke because it still makes your bike run leanish once you give it some more air and expel exhaust quicker.
 

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Drew Miller makes his for $250 plus a $100 core deposit. You get that back one he recieves your take off set.
 

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I just purchased a 2015 Cross Country Tour and had the Victory Stage 1 upgrade installed by the dealer and love it. The sound is exactly what I wanted and the added HP really made the bike respond.. I rode the bike for the first week and found the factory setup sluggish but once the upgrade was done, big difference. I am not a big gear head and do not have the tools needed to do an exhaust recore myself so having it done was a better path for me. I am sure there are cheaper options out there but since this is my first Victory, I wanted to go with what should work and it did.
 

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I have two sets of OEM mufflers - the only change was the tips were shortened by a few inches.

Anyone want them to play with? Gotta come get them tho, it would be pricy to ship...
 

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After 3 years of enjoying the peace and quiet, as well as not disturbing my family when I fire up the bike at 4:30am to go to work, I'm getting ready to upgrade the exhaust. I talked to my dealer to make sure I don't void the remaining 2 years of my warrantee and he wants to do their custom recore job. He claims they've been dynode and average about a 5hp improvement when coupled with an Lloydz air intake and stage 1 flash and it won't hurt my warrantee. My question is would I be better off using one of the slip-ons that are available instead of the recore. It looks like by the time I've done the dealer exhaust with the air and stage 1 I'm going to be up to about $1200 or so. I plan to keep this bike the rest of my life so I'm ok with the expense, I just don't want to find out after the fact that I short changed myself. Any advice would be much appreciated. I know exhaust is already in a hundred other threads on here but I didn't see one addressing the comparison. Thanks, Dave
On my stock XCT I replaced the tips from those at VicBaggers.com and cut the snorkel exhaust tube even or almost even with the muffler. I can't believe how nice is sounds! I'd try that first if you were used to liking a quiet exhaust.
 

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Well it's starting to sound like I should consider buying some Millers or equivalent, watch some videos and plan a Saturday job. Do the recored mufflers not need a reflash? I was under the impression that it was required and the dealer said a PCV would void my warrantee. I figured all along that I probably "could" do this work, just didn't know if I "should" do it.
 

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Well it's starting to sound like I should consider buying some Millers or equivalent, watch some videos and plan a Saturday job. Do the recored mufflers not need a reflash? I was under the impression that it was required and the dealer said a PCV would void my warrantee. I figured all along that I probably "could" do this work, just didn't know if I "should" do it.
sounds to me like you need to find a better dealer if a PCV voids the warranty!
PCV will get your A/F's a lot closer to ideal than a reflash thats for sure!
 

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Originally, I did the 1-1/8" hole saw thing and liked the resulting sound. Then I got talked into a repack a local Vic owner does for only $150 + a 6 pack of dark beer. I couldn't pass up a bargain like that. The repack was considerably louder - not setting off car alarm loud - but I did like the sound the drilled OEMs had better. With those, my neighbors never knew when I was leaving. They do now, even tho the repacks aren't obnoxiously loud.
 

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The Dealer Flash is a joke at best! Get a set of Miller style mufflers / timing wheel / 1/4 turn throttle. Spend an afternoon with your loved one and you will be happy! You may want to un-plug your O2 sensors also so not to run too lean!
Then when your hooked - get the PC5 / a dyno tune / air filter and some cams - it makes a good bike way way better!
I got a buddy who did the Dealer stage One - cost him a bunch - bike sucked fuel / made noise / no real power increase - just sounded like it! Then he got the Cobra's / timing wheel and a PC5 ( just a canned map) and bike is way better - not as good as it can be but he is happier ( for now)! He saw the map on mine and found out the mileage I am getting and he is now slightly grumpy!
 

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Number one question is can you change the mufflers yourself.
It means you have to pull the saddlebags. Unbolt the mufflers and clamps. Cut the heat shield clamps go to hardware store and buy hose clamps. You have to wiggle off the mufflers.

Stage one flash will only add 2% more fuel and raise your timing2%.
With Miller's muffler install them unhook your 02's and ride. No need for anything else.

Yes doing all the other stuff really does wake up your bike but the flash and overpriced dealer stuff is worthless.
 

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So I could change the mufflers myself, use the money I'm saving to buy a Llyodz timing wheel and 1/4 throttle, unhook the O2 sensors and just rock on until the remainder of the warrantee is gone. Then go for the PC5 with auto-tune, Llyodz air etc. Am I trying too hard to save the warrantee or does this sound like a reasonable approach?
 

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So I could change the mufflers myself, use the money I'm saving to buy a Llyodz timing wheel and 1/4 throttle, unhook the O2 sensors and just rock on until the remainder of the warrantee is gone. Then go for the PC5 with auto-tune, Llyodz air etc. Am I trying too hard to save the warrantee or does this sound like a reasonable approach?
I pulled my PC-V(for other issues) and am running a Lloydz air filter, ATS @ +4 and a set of *awesome* Miller Mufflers on the stock ECM. The bike still pulls like a bear and sounds great. I know you'd be happy all around.
 

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Is the ATS you're referring to the Llyodz adjustable timing wheel?
 
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