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Well, had a GREAT time taking all the Demo rides for 3 days! I rode everything more than once trying to get the idea of which bike is the best for me.

2-up and going any kind of real distance, the XC was ideal. Plush, smooth, balanced ride like drive my recliner!

Solo, for commuting to work and gym and hoping around town I really loved oh the Kingpin and High-ball handled. Was able to ride a Kingpin with X-bow exhaust, and just loved the rumble and deep sound and vibration when cracking down on it.

I've read the post about XC/XR exhaust, seemed most focused on sound. I don't need loud exhaust. I just want deep-throated sound and good vibration. Any suggestions? RPW maybe? Are the tips just for looks? Kinda like the look of the big mouth tips...

If the XR, bags were quick disconnect and it came any some other color besides black or red. Love the white and sand 2-tone of the Kingpin paint color... I really like the idea of being able to strip the bike down for my work week. and only throw the bags and shield on when headed out of town...

Maybe the 2012 XR will be more verstile. Any ideas when they normally announce the new year models?
 

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Don't count on the bags become removable on the X bikes any time soon.

It would requires a re-design on the rear fender etc.
 

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maybe

My thought there, would be if they redesigned the Kingpin onto the Cross bikes cast frame. Thus becoming the CrossKing? King Kong?

My other thought was maybe, I should just start with a XR, wear hard for a couple of years, then customize the fenders myself, I could drop the bags...

But, damn was that a seriously fun weekend! Rode them all hard and put them up wet!
 

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Don't count on the bags become removable on the X bikes any time soon.

It would requires a re-design on the rear fender etc.
Did I read this wrong??? All the bags on the x-bikes are removable with the 1.4 turn thumb screws located inside the bags.
 

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Did I read this wrong??? All the bags on the x-bikes are removable with the 1.4 turn thumb screws located inside the bags.
Yes, the "can" be removed. But, it is "unfinished" under there. In other words, seriously FUGLY. XBikes basically use the bags to "finish" triming the rear fender and hide ugly things...
 

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I had a KP and loved it but I will be honest... I love my bags on the XR!

I ride damn near every day of the year and I can keep rain gear on me 24/7 and never have to worry about it. Wife calls and asks me to pick up something from the store on my way home, XR bags got me covered again! There is not much that will not fit in those bags!

With gas prices cresting $4.00 a gallon my F250 V10 stays parked unless I am pulling my RV.

The funny thing is that with gas prices getting higher and higher I am seeing more and more guys on the road now with bikes. ALL OF THEM are either strapping backpacks or after market bags.

I like that I can lock mine, they are water tight and look GREAT with the bike.

Just my two cents but the XR is what I wanted due to not wanting the fairing. Love my XR but I would go with a XC now if I was to do it over again. I got the XR due to price and a ONE OFF skull paint on the XR.

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Just my two cents but the XR is what I wanted due to not wanting the fairing. Love my XR but I would go with a XC now if I was to do it over again. I got the XR due to price and a ONE OFF skull paint on the XR.

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Since you didn't want the fairing then, what makes you want it now? The radio? The looks?

My first instincts is that I don't want the fairing. But, the wife thinks it looks great, flows with the bike. I've been borrowing my brother-n-law's 1100 honda getting my riding legs back. I've gone 2 weeks now, trying to use a backpack. HATE the backpack. So, I put the quick-connect bags back on his bike. They are very small, but with a small gym bag and lunch bucket, it beats the heck out of backpacking it...

So, exactly why would you go with the XC now instead of the XR? it's not the money issue for me. If I save the $4k on a XR (cause I would get the white/silver XC), then I would turn around a spend that $4k on custom paint and mods to the XR...

Oh the choices!!! :D
 

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cheersWell Henry

For me it was the fairing itself. I had never had a bike with a fairing and the thought of it just kind of bugged me. I have swapped bikes with a buddy that has an XC and I love it.

Money was not an issue with me either but I had a bike setting there that had documention that it was a one of a kind. The price was REALLY right, I could pay it in cash with T/T/L.

If that was not on the floor I would have gotten the white XC for sure! But that said I am very very happy with my XR and its going to be in my garrage for years and years to come.

good luck but you can not go wrong with any Victory. There are alot of aftermarket fiberglass bags out for the KP that would put you in the sweet spot that you want to be in.
 

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I've read the post about XC/XR exhaust, seemed most focused on sound. I don't need loud exhaust. I just want deep-throated sound and good vibration. Any suggestions? RPW maybe? Are the tips just for looks? Kinda like the look of the big mouth tips...

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D&D gets my vote. I love mine. Not obnoxious, just real deep with a great sound when accelerating, nice pleasant tone at cruise speeds on the interstate. IMO theres nothing worse than gettin an exhaust thats too loud and drives you crazy on a trip or long ride. One major downside to the D&D is it makes the radio obsolete. :D
 

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QUOTE]One major downside to the D&D is it makes the radio obsolete. :D[/QUOTE]

Do you mean that its so nice to listen to? Or do you mean that they are so loud you can't hear the radio? wac
 

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QUOTE]One major downside to the D&D is it makes the radio obsolete. :D
Do you mean that its so nice to listen to? Or do you mean that they are so loud you can't hear the radio? wac[/QUOTE]

It means they have such a good sound, that you don't want to listen to the radio. They are neighbor freindly also
 

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Seems like it would be D&D vs RPW on the pipes...
Now deciding between XR or XC...
So many folks /w XR have told me, they would switch the XC, if they could...

Not having done long trips yet. Just don't know which I would prefer... Well, I got time to decide, while my fat ass losses more weight! :rolleyes:

Any other plus or minuses, besides the fairing, for XC vs XR?
 

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QUOTE]One major downside to the D&D is it makes the radio obsolete. :D
Do you mean that its so nice to listen to? Or do you mean that they are so loud you can't hear the radio? wac[/QUOTE]



Sorry about that . I mean they sound so good you don't want to listen to the radio, but you can listen to it with no problem, unlike a set of vance and hines I had on my last HD.
 

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Henry,
2 questions. Do you need music? Can you afford either model?

If your budget is low buy a XR and a Bluetooth com system. You can connect an IPod to most of the com systems, talk headset to headset with your wife (even is she's on another bike) and use your cell phone / nav. Most systems are less than $250 for a dual set. XC is several thousand more than XR and you can do more with an XR and a com system then you can with a XC with a IPod hookup.

If you can afford a XC, buy a XC.
 

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2 questions. Do you need music? Can you afford either model?

If your budget is low buy a XR and a Bluetooth com system. You can connect an IPod to most of the com systems, talk headset to headset with your wife (even is she's on another bike) and use your cell phone / nav. Most systems are less than $250 for a dual set. XC is several thousand more than XR and you can do more with an XR and a com system then you can with a XC with a IPod hookup.

If you can afford a XC, buy a XC.
I can afford either model. If I went with the Whhite/Silver XC, it would run nearly $3k more. And, I would have to leave it pretty much stock for a couple of years. Or, I could go XR, and put that $3k into pipes and custom paint job.

You say if you can afford XC, but a XC. Why so? Is there any other advantage of the XC besides the fairing?
 

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I test rode a XC before buying my XR. After putting 4400 miles on my XR I test rode a different XC. Each of the test rides were apprx. 60 miles and mostly highway. To me the only advantage with the XC over the XR was the fairing. Unfortunately both XC's I rode were demo bikes and neither was set up for me so the wind control was horrible. I tried to ignore that and focus on the ride and what, if anything, made the ride better with a fairing. I wasn't able to find anything better or worse with the ride or the handling. There really shouldn't be any difference; XC is nothing more than a XR with a nose-job.

In the end I couldn't justify spending more for the XC and am extremely happy with my XR. If I had to go through the whole process again I my decision would be the same.

Just to clarify when it comes to fit or function I am a function person. The same rule applies to everything I buy; I don't have to have the best or the most popular -- I'm happy with the sale rack!
 

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I can afford either model. If I went with the Whhite/Silver XC, it would run nearly $3k more. And, I would have to leave it pretty much stock for a couple of years. Or, I could go XR, and put that $3k into pipes and custom paint job.

You say if you can afford XC, but a XC. Why so? Is there any other advantage of the XC besides the fairing?

The Cross Country's fairing houses an expansive dash with analog tachometer & speedometer, voltmeter guage and a gas guage, and loads of information and a premium audio system with an MP3 hookup. Radio controls are on the left handlebar, cruise-control on the right.


The Cross Roads has a small single instrument pod, keep the cockpit clean, but still offers its pilot a bucketload of information, including engine rpm in the bank of digital readouts

It's a matter of wht you prefer, I love the analog guages on thr XC, but thats just me
 

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I love me some radio! But, the Bluetooth Com system was a great suggestion also. Especially, if the wife decides to ride her own bike. Right now, I'm leaning towards the Cross Roads, and customize with the savings. But, the wife might change my mind. :crzy:
 

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Radio for me is nothing more than background noise; even in my truck I normally don't turn it up loud -- I like to be able to carry on conversation without having to compete with the DJ's. I spent too many years working around aircraft so loud noises aren't very appealing to me.

check out www.webbikeworld.com they have reviews on just about everything motorcycle. Maybe it will help make your mind up when you see for sure what com systems go for and what they're capable of. My wife likes hers because she doesn't want to miss calls. She has her phone linked and never has to touch the actual phone; when it rings she pushes a button on the headset to answer and if she has to call someone she can voice dial.

As far as the extra guages go on the XC; they are nice -- I wish the XR had bigger readouts. The XR guages are great until it gets dark sooner that you expect. Getting caught in the dark when you're only carrying dark sunglasses sucks -- it's tough to see your speed with the blue backlight (it's ok on roads with street lights). Buy glasses with changable lenses if you ever think you'll get into this situation!
 
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