Hmmm on that 5K max in 5th for the X-bikes. Are we suppose to run in 5th gear for the Dyno runs? If so and it's limited @ 5K then how do the Dyno operators/tuners "see" the HP benefits above 5K?The 2013 steel frame models are limited by the stock ECM's rev limiter. Yes, even with a Power Commander, the ECM will not allow it to rev over (if I remember correctly) 6000ish in forth, but only 5000 in fifth, and maybe about 5000 in 6th.
Yes, the 2013 Vision and X bikes can be rev-extended with a click of a button on the PCV software, and yes same for the 2012 and older steel frame bikes. But the 2013+ steel frames suck and need the Lloydz ECM to rev to max potental.
Nope, re-read the post. The only bikes on the market today that CANNOT be rev-extended with a Power Commander are the '13+ steel frame models. Every X bike and Vision CAN be rev-extended with a Power Commander regardless of year.Hmmm on that 5K max in 5th for the X-bikes. Are we suppose to run in 5th gear for the Dyno runs? If so and it's limited @ 5K then how do the Dyno operators/tuners "see" the HP benefits above 5K?
Actually I'm glad you chimed in Half_crazy-I was going to send you a pm. I'm about to install the 31 tooth pulley on my Hammer but had second thoughts until I get my Lloydz to remove my speed limiter.Here's the thing... there are TWO separate limiters
One is the rev limiter that keeps the bike from reving beyond a safe RPM. This is 5500 stock, can be extended to 6000 by checking a box in the PC-V, or extended to 6400 by requesting it from Power Commander, or to 6400 RPM by Lloydz recalibration of your ECU.
The other is a top speed limiter. This prevents the bike from exceeding the speed rating of the OEM tires. In 5th gear at about 5000 rpm, you have reached 122 MPH and are hitting the speed limiter. This can be defeated by Lloydz ECU recalibration.
Yeah good one, 3 months later the post office reports "lost it"You already got your wish!
Send your ECU to Lloydz and when it comes back the rev limiter will be 6400 rpm and no more speed limiter.
See how easy that was?