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After calling Penske direct, I got my shock today!!! Im curious about length compared to stock. '15 Highball. I specifically asked for the 10mm longer shock. I see the new shock can also be adjusted for height at bottom. It came with a dyno, and a nice manual. Stoked!

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Is it really better than stock? I guess it seems like more work to me than the simple air pressure adjustment on my CCT.
 

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Is it really better than stock? I guess it seems like more work to me than the simple air pressure adjustment on my CCT.
You adjust it to how you ride most the time as far as weight goes. It still works with more or less weight; just not as good. Might be a little stiff or a little soft. Kinda like looking at soft porn.

It's actually less work. No effort at all since it's set.
 

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Well I was thinking more that I might sometimes be 2up and other times loaded for a trip so those cases I think I would want to adjust it but looks difficult to do that. For now my stock shock works but if it fails I might be looking at these more.
 

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Well I was thinking more that I might sometimes be 2up and other times loaded for a trip so those cases I think I would want to adjust it but looks difficult to do that. For now my stock shock works but if it fails I might be looking at these more.
This is why I haven't rushed off to change my XC's suspension(other than following some members advice and increasing the pressures I ride at)...but @bumpedmyhead is putting this Penske on a Highball and I'm willing to bet its going to be a HUGE improvement in all conditions.
 

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This is why I haven't rushed off to change my XC's suspension(other than following some members advice and increasing the pressures I ride at)...but @bumpedmyhead is putting this Penske on a Highball and I'm willing to bet its going to be a HUGE improvement in all conditions.
On a steel frame bike it should work just as well as long as it's set up right. I think I might opt for the Progressive shock on a steel frame though. Just to save $250 but then I'm more cost conscious than some.

https://www.jpcycles.com/product/924-039/progressive-suspension-black-465-1-shock
 

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On a steel frame bike it should work just as well as long as it's set up right. I think I might opt for the Progressive shock on a steel frame though. Just to save $250 but then I'm more cost conscious than some.



https://www.jpcycles.com/product/924-039/progressive-suspension-black-465-1-shock
I have a progressive shock on my Jack-Hammer, i bought it new in the box from a member here that did not use it ....

So set the SAG i made this list below, easy to install

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@PaiN I was going to suggest another winter project but it looks fairly simple to change out the shock...
 

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@PaiN I was going to suggest another winter project but it looks fairly simple to change out the shock...
Like I said in that performance thread.... I've come to the conclusion that the XC's stock suspension is adequate "as is" and imo the gains are not worth the cost of the upgrading. Hell, with almost 60k miles on my shock, I had 45lbs of air in it when I put it away for the winter last November...When I took the bike out last Wednesday getting it all back together and ready to ride...the shock still had 45lbs of air in it :D

But I know you and you are going to change that shock sooner or later ... LOL :wink
 

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Is it really better than stock? I guess it seems like more work to me than the simple air pressure adjustment on my CCT.
The Cross bikes already have air ride from the factory and it's so easy to adjust as needed. I have no issue with the oem rear shock what so ever on my CCT and therefore have no thoughts about changing it out. If it were to suddenly leak, I'd replace it with another oem rear shock. Most people's issue with the oem rear Cross bike shock is they don't run much, if any, air in it. Disregard the oem factory air/weight guide, run between 40 psi and 70 psi and the factory shock performs beautifully.

Then again, if I spent nearly $800 on an aftermarket rear shock I'd want to convince my it made an enormous improvement over a properly inflated oem rear shock.
 

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The HB doesnt have a factory air shock. Im 260 full dress with rain gear, leathers. Add a passenger, and I have no rear wiring. Happened on my 07 Vegas.

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The HB doesnt have a factory air shock. Im 260 full dress with rain gear, leathers. Add a passenger, and I have no rear wiring. Happened on my 07 Vegas.

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I made a aluminium plate inside the fender for wire protection, works well, rain water or rubbing alike

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Finally installed! Did it myself since I have a service manual. Wasnt too bad, about 2 hours, probably because Ive never done one. The service manual is a little obscure, but useable. The rear fender measured
+ 7/8 inch increase over stock. Definately can feel it in the seat.


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And more...straightforward install using the sevice manual. I did notice a misprint with the position of suspension link pivot, that you drive out to drop shock. I figured it out. Also got the wrong circlip because of it, so I reused it the old and ordered a new.


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Its pretty smooth. Doesnt feel like a hardtail now. It felt "bottomed" out before. Absorbs bumps good, great lean now. Now the forks are horribly undersprung!

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Its pretty smooth. Doesnt feel like a hardtail now. It felt "bottomed" out before. Absorbs bumps good, great lean now. Now the forks are horribly undersprung!

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Yes...thats exactly how my Vegas felt after I fitted the Progressive 465 to the rear.
Wound up fitting Prgressive front springs and Gold Valves as well as Synthetic fluid.
But then scored a killer clearance deal from Leaders RPM on an USD Kingpin front end with chrome triple trees.
It works as well as my rebuilt Vegas front did performance wise and is more supple over bumps.
Its done a lot of kms now but so a change to Synthetic fluid is coming up in the near future.
Id advise you to at very least change front fluid and fit gold valves, while its apart Progressive springs complete the package.
Unless of course you can do what I did and get an USD setup at the right price.
 

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