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I think you should broaghthen your horizon , not my writings below...


Mike King postulates that:
"..there are a number of elites who just don't think World War 3 is a good idea."


New York Times: Aircraft Carrier Wasn’t Sailing to Deter North Korea, as U.S. Suggested

REBUTTAL BY The Anti NY Times

In our controversial Easter Sunday TomatoBubble piece titled, "Could Trump, Putin & Xi Be Conspiring For Peace?" -- we speculated that
Trumpstein's anti-Syrian and anti-North Korean
sabre-rattling-over-chocolate-cake with Xi may have been nothing more than theater intended to hold the world-warmongers at bay.
(here:)**http://www.tomatobubble.com/trump_putin_xi.html

This MSM story about the "armada" that was said to have been headed towards North Korea, when, in reality, it was actually sailing away from North Korea, only strengthens the hypothesis that Trumpstein does not intend to make war against Lil' Kim.

1. Trumpstein's "armada" was actually heading away from the Korean peninsula.
2. "Xi, I'm gonna make everybody think that an attack on North Korea
is imminent. Then you step in and make it look like we all came to an agreement, because of my leadership. Putin and Assad are all in as well."

From the article:

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“We’re sending an armada,” Mr. Trump said to Fox News last Tuesday afternoon.

The problem was that the carrier, the Carl Vinson, and the three other
warships in its strike force were that very moment sailing in the opposite direction, to take part in joint exercises with the
Australian Navy in the Indian Ocean, 3,500 miles southwest of the Korean Peninsula."

White House officials said Tuesday that they had been relying on guidance from the Defense Department. Officials there described a glitch-ridden sequence of events ... which perpetuated the false narrative that a flotilla was racing toward the waters off North
Korea. By the time the White House was asked about the Carl Vinson, its
imminent arrival had been emblazoned on front pages across East Asia,
fanning fears that Mr. Trump was considering a pre-emptive military strike. It was portrayed as further evidence of the president’s
muscular style days after he ordered a missile strike on Syria that came while he and President Xi Jinping of China chatted over dessert during a meeting in Florida.

With Mr. Trump himself playing up the show of force, Pentagon officials said, rolling back the story became difficult."

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South Korean and Japanese news media, as well as Sulzberger's Slimes, had all hyped-up the "armada" as evidence that the crisis was
intensifying. Even Sugar and I, er, "the Editorial Board" of The Anti-New York Times ripped into Trumpstein for provoking World War 3 after Trumpstein himself stoked fears of military action with an early AM Twitter rant: “North Korea is looking for trouble. If China decides to help, that would be great. If not, we will solve the problem
without them! U.S.A.”

Now it seems that the Piranha Press is catching on to the possibility that the White House, as it did with the Syrian missiles-strikes-to-nowhere, is playing them on North Korea as well. For its part in the global drama, the Chinese are expressing
"concerns" about the big showdown as they plead with Sherrif Trumpstein for calm and diplomacy. Meanwhile, Vice President Mike Pence continues to play his assigned supporting role by visiting
vassal-state South Korea and spewing out more "tough guy" war rhetoric
to add to the effect. Of course, this is not in any way to suggest that the Trumpstein-Kushner co-presidency is going to turn against the Masters of the Universe (cough cough) and finally liberate us from the Globalist-Marxist-Zionist Axis of Evil and restore Jefferson's America. No way.

Our interpretation of this game-playing scenario (assuming it turns out to be correct) is that among the ranks of the PRC (Predatory Ruling Class), and even within the government of Israel and the Mossad itself, there are a number of elites who just don't think World War 3 is a good idea.

You see, even the greasiest of gangsters love their children too!

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I'm glad they don't make motorcycles:grin
 

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I think you forgot to add the poll.
I was experimenting with how the software handles creating a poll as I enjoyed the one recently posted about helmets.
When I didn't fill anything into the poll section my thought was that the first part would not post. OOps.. :frown
Topic seemed like a good one in light of current events, but it was was just what came to mind as I was trying to figure out the software.

Maybe someone can suggest some questions or statements along that topic, and if so I will try to put it together into a poll as time permits and I figure out the software. The software will accept 10 choices so there is room for a variety of choices under the topic of your thoughts on What is happening presently between the US and North Korea.

Personally I am pretty much stunned by what is going on. But that is just me.
 

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I think that North Korea is being spoken for by probably less than 2% of its population using the other 98% of its innocent people as a human shield. The North Korean people in general have no clue what the rest of the world is like, they can't even jump on the internet and look it up. From birth they were all brain washed by their leaders spreading propaganda and they have no sources to verify any of it other than the very controlled media sources within North Korea.

I think as a veteran and a contractor who deploys with the Army, that this is very sad. If little fat **** brings harm to his people because he is a crazy little bastard then that will cause a great hit on humanity. We may be occupying Iraq and Afghanistan in order to exterminate Al Qaeda, Taliban and (ISIL, ISIS, Daesh or IS) whatever you want to call them.... but America, coalition forces, NATO and the UN are all doing good things for the people of these regions and helping build a sustainable economy, or any economy for that matter. I personally when I was a soldier was involved in helping build schools, hospitals, voting polls, train Iraqi Army and police, advisement on agriculture practices, English language teachings, etc. And I was infantry at that time. I wasn't even an MOS that deals with any of that other than the training military and police. We were delivering school supplies, toys, candy, water to schools throughout the city almost daily in-between our patrols.

So, no I do not feel that an entire country of people who are left in the dark on worldwide matters should be punished because their leader is crazier than his father was. These people are ruled under worse conditions than Stalin. They are starving, living in horrible conditions and deaf and blind to the matters not only inside their own country, but in the rest of the world too.

I felt that exact way many times while Oblahblah was our president, Hoping the rest of the world wouldn't want to punish us because our leader was a flawed imbecile who said and did things weekly that were not popular American opinion. Maybe popular with people born after 1990 who need safe spaces, safety pins, vagina hats and believe feminism is to make women hold all of the rights and power. You know, they types that threaten to cut off their penis' in a border protection wall is built. We should build it with their junk incorporated into it. A bunch of little baby vagina looking penis' should scare off illegal immigrants.
 

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My experience in Naval Intel taught me just how little we civilians know about what is really going on in the world, especially if it involves things military. I also learned how much we be BS'd by gov't and the media. Example: I just heard a reveal about that Chinook helicopter that was shot down with a goodly loss of lives 6 years ago. The reason for that we got then and what the truth is are miles apart. When I heard what the real cause was I got real angry and I still am. It was due to Obama's asinine ROEs that handcuffed our military and gave the advantage to our enemies. That Chinook got shot down, because permission would not be granted (requested several times) to neutralize the enemy with the meanest aircraft in our arsenal, a C-130 gunship that was on the scene, so they were left intact to fire upon the Chinook. I hope this and more stories of the outrageous damages Obama is responsible for come to the surface and right before election times.
 

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Mostly geedunk medals. Navy guys know what I mean.
 

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I have very little trust of our "leadership" (don't worry, they've earned it!) but it really steams me how our last batch of leaders actually went above and beyond to murder or allow the murder of a number of it's citizens. Just in an effort to advance a false narative.

You may say what you will concerning the current leadership, but Gutless is one word you won't be able to use.
 

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I met a gal that managed to get out of North Korea. She would not say how, but she now lives in Florida. She said the people there starve and are treated like crap. She is amazed by all that we have to offer here in the US. I have not seen her since that day. She apparently didn't like working for the owner of the restaurant where she waited on me.

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My experience in Naval Intel taught me just how little we civilians know about what is really going on in the world, especially if it involves things military. I also learned how much we be BS'd by gov't and the media. Example: I just heard a reveal about that Chinook helicopter that was shot down with a goodly loss of lives 6 years ago. The reason for that we got then and what the truth is are miles apart. When I heard what the real cause was I got real angry and I still am. It was due to Obama's asinine ROEs that handcuffed our military and gave the advantage to our enemies. That Chinook got shot down, because permission would not be granted (requested several times) to neutralize the enemy with the meanest aircraft in our arsenal, a C-130 gunship that was on the scene, so they were left intact to fire upon the Chinook. I hope this and more stories of the outrageous damages Obama is responsible for come to the surface and right before election times.
Agreed. And we were never in Iran either....
 

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My experience in Naval Intel taught me just how little we civilians know about what is really going on in the world, especially if it involves things military. I also learned how much we be BS'd by gov't and the media. Example: I just heard a reveal about that Chinook helicopter that was shot down with a goodly loss of lives 6 years ago. The reason for that we got then and what the truth is are miles apart. When I heard what the real cause was I got real angry and I still am. It was due to Obama's asinine ROEs that handcuffed our military and gave the advantage to our enemies. That Chinook got shot down, because permission would not be granted (requested several times) to neutralize the enemy with the meanest aircraft in our arsenal, a C-130 gunship that was on the scene, so they were left intact to fire upon the Chinook. I hope this and more stories of the outrageous damages Obama is responsible for come to the surface and right before election times.
Obama is nothing less than a murderer (likely thousands of times over) who should get the just punishment for his many many crimes, not only murder, but I fear he will escape paying for his crimes on this plane of existence. This particular instance really steams me too. Makes me want to throat punch valjar among others. By now everyone knows obie isn't very smart and could never come up with all these nation damaging policies and actions on his own. I suspect he got his marching orders from a person or group in the middle east using valjar as the conduit. I hope this come out into the open one day; the sooner the better of course.

About NK. It's a small nation under the tyrannical rule of a crazy fat boy that borders China and SK.

Otherwise what Bobbyd85 said in post #7 pretty much covers it.

PS: When starting a poll shouldn't there actually be a poll at the beginning?
 

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My experience in Naval Intel taught me just how little we civilians know about what is really going on in the world, especially if it involves things military. I also learned how much we be BS'd by gov't and the media. Example: I just heard a reveal about that Chinook helicopter that was shot down with a goodly loss of lives 6 years ago. The reason for that we got then and what the truth is are miles apart. When I heard what the real cause was I got real angry and I still am. It was due to Obama's asinine ROEs that handcuffed our military and gave the advantage to our enemies. That Chinook got shot down, because permission would not be granted (requested several times) to neutralize the enemy with the meanest aircraft in our arsenal, a C-130 gunship that was on the scene, so they were left intact to fire upon the Chinook. I hope this and more stories of the outrageous damages Obama is responsible for come to the surface and right before election times.
The general population of the USA have know idea of how great the threats are in America or a broad. I have been out of the service for 32 years. The same treats we had then we have now. Only those threats are much greater now and have reached our Home Land. The USA has tried paying them off, meaningless treaties and agreements. All we have done is make them stronger, a greater threat to us and the world. These evil regimes only understand one thing. That is total defeat, that is the only way we will ever get them in to check.
 
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