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I was on my way to physical therapy in West Palm Beach this morning on I95. As I prepared to exit there was a large group of bikes traveling together in the middle lane staggered at safe distance with high vis vests front and back of the pack. There was a light rain falling and traffic was heavy. I watched in horror as a SUV cut between the pack moving from the fast lane to the exit ramp ending up directly behind me. Unfortunatly for him I was driving my F350 4x4 with a steel flatbed and large printle (military) hitch. I couldnt help my self.

I brake checked the puke.

He failed miserably. My freshly rebuilt brakes and spankin neww rotors were to much for him. When he hit I released the brake and surged forward relieving him of most the shiny parts up front and all of his coolant.
I know at some level I should feel bad, but I dont. After the tow truck arrived and the cops left I walked up to him and said " If I wasnt so concerned about those bikers you cut off I might not have hit the brakes so hard" at that moment he knew. I limped back to my truck and went to my Pt, trying to recover from the jackass who put me in the guardrail in January.

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Good for you. I am the silent type. I would tell no one.
 

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Hell yeah !!!
 

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While some would think this is not a Good Idea .. I Salute You .. Maybe it was the same jackass that nearly put me into the Guard Rail a couple weeks back on my way to the Ozarks .. Hadn't been for the Power of the Victory, would have got me.. Was no way could use brakes and not get hit ..
 

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I was on my way to physical therapy in West Palm Beach this morning on I95. As I prepared to exit there was a large group of bikes traveling together in the middle lane staggered at safe distance with high vis vests front and back of the pack. There was a light rain falling and traffic was heavy. I watched in horror as a SUV cut between the pack moving from the fast lane to the exit ramp ending up directly behind me. Unfortunatly for him I was driving my F350 4x4 with a steel flatbed and large printle (military) hitch. I couldnt help my self.

I brake checked the puke.

He failed miserably. My freshly rebuilt brakes and spankin neww rotors were to much for him. When he hit I released the brake and surged forward relieving him of most the shiny parts up front and all of his coolant.
I know at some level I should feel bad, but I dont. After the tow truck arrived and the cops left I walked up to him and said " If I wasnt so concerned about those bikers you cut off I might not have hit the brakes so hard" at that moment he knew. I limped back to my truck and went to my Pt, trying to recover from the jackass who put me in the guardrail in January.

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So all you proved is you are as big a jerk as that person was. You intentionally cause a traffic crash and as such you should be charged for causing the crash.

Just because someone else does something stupid does not mean you should do something just as stupid. From your description said SUV caused no crash yet you took it upon your self to cause a crash. You sir deserve to have your license suspended for your childish actions. Your admission of brake checking the car behind is direct evidence against you in the eyes of the law and you have now admitted it on a public forum.

If everyone was jumping off a bridge does that mean you have to go over and jump off the bridge as well? Grow the hell up. You deserve to end up getting sued in civil court over your stupidity.
 

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Vic1,
I wish I lived in your perfect world. You have obviously not attended as many funerals and benefits for fallen bros as I have.


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Sometimes it's nice to be driving my big ol' Ford truck, I must admit... Good on ya! F--- him.
 

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From your description said SUV caused no crash yet you took it upon your self to cause a crash.
According to the law, a driver must maintain adequate distance between himself and the vehicle before him to avoid a crash. If one can not avoid a person in front of them using their brakes, they are guilty of following too closely and failure to control their vehicle.

It works both ways. A few years back I was behind a school bus who was in an intersection making a left hand turn with a green light and for whatever reason she slammed on the brakes right in the middle of the turn.

I wasn't too close, but I still knew I had to brake hard and moved to the side of the road to prevent getting run over from behind. I applied the brakes and locked the front wheel in the silt left over from winter road sanding. I tried to regain control of the bike to no avail. I fell off and the bike proceeded under the bus full of excited children.

Though the skid was clear in the silt and the witnesses all agreed she had no reason to come to a halt like that, I got cited.

I talked to a lawyer and he said under normal circumstances he could get it reduced to some lower, non-moving citation to prevent points to my license, but he said when it comes to school buses, there won't be any leniency from the courts.
 

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As the old saying goes: "Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do."
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According to the law, a driver must maintain adequate distance between himself and the vehicle before him to avoid a crash. If one can not avoid a person in front of them using their brakes, they are guilty of following too closely and failure to control their vehicle.

It works both ways. A few years back I was behind a school bus who was in an intersection making a left hand turn with a green light and for whatever reason she slammed on the brakes right in the middle of the turn.

I wasn't too close, but I still knew I had to brake hard and moved to the side of the road to prevent getting run over from behind. I applied the brakes and locked the front wheel in the silt left over from winter road sanding. I tried to regain control of the bike to no avail. I fell off and the bike proceeded under the bus full of excited children.

Though the skid was clear in the silt and the witnesses all agreed she had no reason to come to a halt like that, I got cited.

I talked to a lawyer and he said under normal circumstances he could get it reduced to some lower, non-moving citation to prevent points to my license, but he said when it comes to school buses, there won't be any leniency from the courts.
Not all rear end crashes are the fault of the person in the rear. In this case you have a driver in front who intentionally suddenly braked in an attempt to cause said crash and in fact caused the crash. The driver even admits to his actions.

The only thing Big Zilla did was cause everyone's insurance to increase because of his childish actions.

As for your crash with the school bus you are clearly at fault in that crash. If the bus driver had made a statement that they intentionally brake checked you then the school bus would have been at fault.

Come on people use common sense. I am not saying the SUV did not act stupid cutting between the motorcycles, but clearly Big Zilla is an ass clown for what he did.

Than again was there really any wrong doing by the SUV as the motorcyclists should have all had more then enough room between them for a car to change lanes if not then they were just asking for a crash, but from the account given by Big Zilla the motorcycles did not take any evasive action due to the SUV. The only thing Big Zilla says is the SUV changed lanes between the group of motorcycles and went to the exit ramp. Where is the big problem. Is it merely that Big Zilla did not like what the SUV did?
 

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A part of me agrees with what you did and another part agrees with Victory1 ... the world we live in has become a world of "I don't give a crap about anyone else". Because of that I find I tend to resort to similar "tactics" even though in my head I know I shouldn't.

I won't commend you for your actions (because they aren't right) but I won't diss you either (because it's something I might do too).
 

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a SUV cut between the pack moving from the fast lane to the exit ramp
Could you elaborate on this as it leaves too much for individual interpretation and some might not be seeing the "true picture" in their mind when they formulate their comments.
 

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Whenever a driver pulls some dumb stunt, my response is to say, I hope there's a place in hell for him/her. BIG ZILLA, you gave that driver a taste of what hell is like. A tip of the helmet to you, sir and may your PT come to a speedy fruition.
As for you, Victory1, BZ had the guts to do what we all have wished we had done at times and I'll wager that even sanctimonious you have too. Saddle makes the point; if that egocentric driver hadn't been riding BZ's ass, there would have been no tale to tell here.
 

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Not all rear end crashes are the fault of the person in the rear. In this case you have a driver in front who intentionally suddenly braked in an attempt to cause said crash and in fact caused the crash. The driver even admits to his actions.

The only thing Big Zilla did was cause everyone's insurance to increase because of his childish actions.

As for your crash with the school bus you are clearly at fault in that crash. If the bus driver had made a statement that they intentionally brake checked you then the school bus would have been at fault.

Come on people use common sense. I am not saying the SUV did not act stupid cutting between the motorcycles, but clearly Big Zilla is an ass clown for what he did.

Than again was there really any wrong doing by the SUV as the motorcyclists should have all had more then enough room between them for a car to change lanes if not then they were just asking for a crash, but from the account given by Big Zilla the motorcycles did not take any evasive action due to the SUV. The only thing Big Zilla says is the SUV changed lanes between the group of motorcycles and went to the exit ramp. Where is the big problem. Is it merely that Big Zilla did not like what the SUV did?
Ass-Clown??? I can live with that.

But don't make assumptions. He didn't want the police report or the insurance claim. He knew he was following too closely. and the police agreed.

Of course I was wrong. But it felt good. Not everything in this world has to involve lawyers, courts, and insurance companies. Some times justice just happens. People like you want to litigate everything. He needed a spanking and he got one. THE END.
 

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The only thing I will say is the rule is you must have your vehicle under control. You slammed your brakes on, he could not stop. He obviously was speeding, following too closely, not paying attention. Sorry his fault
 

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Could you elaborate on this as it leaves too much for individual interpretation and some might not be seeing the "true picture" in their mind when they formulate their comments.
Sure,

Six lane Highway, 3 north and 3 south, plus a deceleration lane for the upcoming exit. The driver in one fast movement went from the far left lane (fast lane) through the middle lane between the bikes, through the right (slow)lane cutting off a car too, and into the deceleration lane and exited the highway behind me. 4 lanes total, I couldn't believe it when it happened. Hope that clears it up.
 

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I LOVE IT! What we have here folks is an analogy about parenting. Big Zilla is the dad accepting his role to discipline and Victory1 is the nurturing mom who admonishes, "If your friends jumped off a bridge...." Gad! That took me back 70 years or more.
 

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Hope that clears it up.
Not exactly ... did he cut any of the bikes off? Was there sufficient room between the bikes to make the lane change? Did any of the bikes have to brake hard or swerve? That kind of clarification would be helpful.
 
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