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got the lloydz quarter turn installed but can't get the 1/8" play the manual suggests, is it just that way? i worked on the lower cables and upper adjusters, throttle returns fine. have not started bike since its winter + i do not ride, so i am concerned of a high idle, anyone have this issue? manual shows the "do not adjust" for idle screw was this necessary for anyone? thanks for all replies as always.
 

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If you screw the cables all the way in at both ends you should have plenty of slack. Make sure the cables aren't routed funny too.
 

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Did you make any adjustments at the throttle body? There isn't enough adjustment at the bars alone to allow enough slack to make the correct adjustment....
 

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i will try again!

i totally loosened lower cable at throttle body for installation then putting it back after lifting the tank i backed it off buy quit when i lost throttle return, i was told and it worked to adj the pull cable for more throttle return. i may be over concerned trying to keep lower cable adj centered as the manual suggests. that does not include the non stock quarter turn modification. going down now as its still warm from firing the stove all day, its 14 now + 0 or less is expected tonight. thanks for all input
 

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The centering that the manual speaks of is for a stock throttle position. Now that you have put the 1/4 turn throttle ring in it throws all that out the window. Your gonna have to mess with both adjustments to get your throttle adjustments back.
 

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on my way

thanks, as this my first Vic i am cautious making changes, hearing from experienced owners is comforting, don't want to screw anything up!!!!
 

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I hear ya man, just to mention I like to keep both top and bottom adjustments at the throttle bodies fairly close to the same and then make the final adjustments on the bars. When your all said and done with the bike at idle turn the bars lock to lock listening for any changes in rpm. If you have a power commander you will want to reset the Throttle position in the software as well....
 

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finally got it

adjustments at throttle body are almost fully used at opposite ends, all is well that ends well. thanks to everyones help
 

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If you have a power commander you will want to reset the Throttle position in the software as well....
This is the second time I've seen this mentioned now and I still don't understand why it's suggested. I'm pretty sure the PC gets its throttle position from the TPS. Since installation of the 1/4 turn ring requires neither the throttle reel nor the TPS to be messed with, why would the PC be affected? All we are doing when installing the ring is adjusting the cables to compensate for the larger effective diameter of the throttle grip, the limits of the throttle reel are not changed at all. The bike should just think that we are twisting the throttle more quickly, not further. Please explain so I can wrap my head around this…

(And for the record, no adjustments were made to my PC after installing the ring…)
 

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got the lloydz quarter turn installed but can't get the 1/8" play the manual suggests, is it just that way? i worked on the lower cables and upper adjusters, throttle returns fine. have not started bike since its winter + i do not ride, so i am concerned of a high idle, anyone have this issue? manual shows the "do not adjust" for idle screw was this necessary for anyone? thanks for all replies as always.
you should never post with out saying what year and model you have.
 

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This is the second time I've seen this mentioned now and I still don't understand why it's suggested. I'm pretty sure the PC gets its throttle position from the TPS. Since installation of the 1/4 turn ring requires neither the throttle reel nor the TPS to be messed with, why would the PC be affected? All we are doing when installing the ring is adjusting the cables to compensate for the larger effective diameter of the throttle grip, the limits of the throttle reel are not changed at all. The bike should just think that we are twisting the throttle more quickly, not further. Please explain so I can wrap my head around this…

(And for the record, no adjustments were made to my PC after installing the ring…)
To keep the PC calibrated and the what? 2mins it takes to do the process of setting the TP, why would you not? For instance the last time I removed my throttle tube (grip) i have to loosen it up down at the TB as well, when I hooked it up to the software my throttle position was jumping from 0%-2% all I did was loosen the throttle cable's. Also since the pcV runs off throttle position and now essentially you've shortened it's twist and made the movement alot shorter to WOT then your putting alot of faith into the PCV to recognize the changes, again it takes all of 2mins to do, even if it doesn't do squat the piece of mind knowing it's dead set perfect is worth the 2mins of your time....
 

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To keep the PC calibrated and the what? 2mins it takes to do the process of setting the TP, why would you not?
Fair enough, if it is such an easy procedure, better safe than sorry. Honestly, I've never done it when installing one (never seen it mentioned as a step in the install instructions), but now that you've made me aware of the procedure I think I'll do it next chance I get.

Also since the pcV runs off throttle position and now essentially you've shortened it's twist and made the movement alot shorter to WOT then your putting alot of faith into the PCV to recognize the changes.
Here's where I still beg to differ. Yes, the PC runs off throttle position, however... throttle position is not measured at the grip. The TPS is not mounted at the handlebar where it could monitor the twisting of the grip. Even with the 1/4 turn ring installed, the throttle cables still pull the same distance, the throttle reel still rotates the same number of degrees, it just happens with less rider effort at the grip. The TPS could not possibly see it any differently than if you were to open the throttle more quickly than normal without a 1/4 turn ring installed. Therefore, there are no "changes" for the PC to recognize.
 

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I just look at it as a good practice any time you mess with the adjustments. I actually have a method I like to use that an old tuner I know used to use, I'll try and post the steps....
I hear what you're saying how the tps measures it's travel and totally agree with you, it probably doesn't need to be reset everytime but I personally prefer to know it's set and reading correctly...
 

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TPS reset

on my 2013 hammer can the TPS be reset without the PCV, i have no xtra fuel controller installed at this time, thanks i am all ears-eyes
 
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