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Hi All,

I have a new symptom what I cannot seem to fix.. I need some help.

When I downshift and release the clutch, I get a ratcheting noise. Instead of the bike engine breaking it ratchets.

example, When in 5th gear and drop it to 3 coming to a light about 50mph, I slowly release the clutch and it sounds like an impact wrench. I am not dropping the clutch just letting it out slowly just like I have done many times before. As soon as I am down in the 30mph, 1500 rpm, area it will not ratchet and engine breaks perfectly. It happens in 6, 5, 4, and 3 gears.

Is there a misalignment in the Clutch that is getting worse?

Anyone else have this problem? HELP
 

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Hi All,

I have a new symptom what I cannot seem to fix.. I need some help.

When I downshift and release the clutch, I get a ratcheting noise. Instead of the bike engine breaking it ratchets.

example, When in 5th gear and drop it to 3 coming to a light about 50mph, I slowly release the clutch and it sounds like an impact wrench. I am not dropping the clutch just letting it out slowly just like I have done many times before. As soon as I am down in the 30mph, 1500 rpm, area it will not ratchet and engine breaks perfectly. It happens in 6, 5, 4, and 3 gears.

Is there a misalignment in the Clutch that is getting worse?

Anyone else have this problem? HELP
I'm not sure if my sound is the same as yours but recently, I started getting a similar sound when downshifting to first which made me fear an issue with first gear. Well I am here today doing a search on "clutch cable" since mine snapped today. I don't know if the noise was a sign the cable was going (hopefully!) or something else.
 

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Hi All,

I have a new symptom what I cannot seem to fix.. I need some help.

When I downshift and release the clutch, I get a ratcheting noise. Instead of the bike engine breaking it ratchets.

example, When in 5th gear and drop it to 3 coming to a light about 50mph, I slowly release the clutch and it sounds like an impact wrench. I am not dropping the clutch just letting it out slowly just like I have done many times before. As soon as I am down in the 30mph, 1500 rpm, area it will not ratchet and engine breaks perfectly. It happens in 6, 5, 4, and 3 gears.

Is there a misalignment in the Clutch that is getting worse?

Anyone else have this problem? HELP
My bike does this too , always has , but more-so in the lower gears ....
 

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Miss adjusted clutch cable (or an EZ clutch installed) or friction plates sticking will cause those symptoms.
 

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My first question on this thread is are you using factory Victory oil or have you switched to a different brand.

Second, is this happening when the bike is not warmed up completely or after running it for at least 30 minutes.

The chatter or ratcheting that you're hearing used to be quite common on the Jap bikes of the 1970's. When your oil is too cool to flow adequately away from between the clutch plates you can get a chatter when engaging the clutch usually on a down shift because you disengage the clutch for a longer period downshifting than upshifting allowing more oil to actually flow between the plate(s).

I haven't heard of this on a Vic before so I'm interested in your response.
 

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Tested the question. It is more prominent in the lower gears 3rd and down. Also it does not seem to matter on if the oil is cold or not. I am running Vic oil with about 1200 on this change.

Could my clutch alignment along with oil be enough to cause the problem.. hmmm
 

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Mine is much more prominent when cold .
 

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I have a hydraulic clutch on my XC and I get this sound shifting from 3rd to 2nd when I don't completely release my clutch in a timely manner. In other words when I get lazy with my downshifting. Been doing it for 42,000 miles. Never does it when I don't dawdle.
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I've got a new 2015 XCT with only 658 miles on it. I've had this ratcheting problem since around 250 miles. It only happens to me when downshifting into 3rd and 2nd when the engine is warm. Even after the 500 mile "first service" when the oil was changed, it has continued to do this. I talked with a friend of mine who works the Victory demo rides across the country about it and he indicated it was no big deal. His advice to me was "don't baby it." He felt I was being too gentle with the downshifting. I'm not sure his advice really helped. Some days I still have this problem and other days I don't. I just ignore it when it happens since it seems to eventually "catch".

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2015 XCT, red/black, stock
 

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I noticed something like this on my 2012 XC last week for the first time.... Changed my oil (it was due) and it's back to normal... Hope yours goes away too...
 

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Possible Solution

I may have found the solution - at least in my case. Perhaps it may help you too.

I have been paying more attention to my overall riding technique and realized I have developed some bad habits. (Probably from riding my old Harley all these many years.) I realized I was not throttling up when down-shifting in order to match the engine speed with the gear/road speed. I had been lazily downshifting then just slowly letting out the clutch. When I use the proper technique of throttling up when downshifting, I never get the clackety-ratchet sound.

Hope this helps!
 

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My first question on this thread is are you using factory Victory oil or have you switched to a different brand.

Second, is this happening when the bike is not warmed up completely or after running it for at least 30 minutes.

The chatter or ratcheting that you're hearing used to be quite common on the Jap bikes of the 1970's. When your oil is too cool to flow adequately away from between the clutch plates you can get a chatter when engaging the clutch usually on a down shift because you disengage the clutch for a longer period downshifting than upshifting allowing more oil to actually flow between the plate(s).

I haven't heard of this on a Vic before so I'm interested in your response.
Try changing to Amsoil 20W-40 MC engineered for Vic & Indian. My 2014 XC at over 12K tranny and clutch rock solid 12. Been using Amsoil since 500mi break in.
 

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Still don't understand why you guys think changing the oil or oil brand will make a difference.
Oil has nothing to do with your shifting its you. Lazy foot bad clutch adjustment or wrong linkage adjustment. Maybe you have bad gears or even clutch plates.
You can go 5000 miles or more on one oil change what makes you think that at 2000 miles your oil is causing the problem. Why would Vic say you can go 5000 if they new it would cause shifting problems.
Have any of you ever read where Kevinx or Rylan has said change your oil and your shifting problems will go away.
 

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Still don't understand why you guys think changing the oil or oil brand will make a difference.

Oil has nothing to do with your shifting its you. Lazy foot bad clutch adjustment or wrong linkage adjustment. Maybe you have bad gears or even clutch plates.

You can go 5000 miles or more on one oil change what makes you think that at 2000 miles your oil is causing the problem. Why would Vic say you can go 5000 if they new it would cause shifting problems.

Have any of you ever read where Kevinx or Rylan has said change your oil and your shifting problems will go away.

Lol well done VJ.
 

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I have '13 XC and my bike has had this problem since it was brand new with 0 miles on it. It used to drive me crazy and I've never been able to figure out what was actually causing it. I took it back to the dealership after the first month or so of ownership and they told me it was a normal sound (which I thought was total BS at the time). I've changed the oil, adjusted the clutch cable numerous times, looked all over the internet for answers. I guess I've just learned to deal with it, but it still irks me when I hear it.

It really only happens when going from 3rd to 2nd, or 2nd to 1st. Never heard it at higher speeds (ie downshifting coming off the highway). I primarily use the engine to slow the bike down so I'm sure my riding style doesn't help the issue. But it doesn't always happen. It's very intermittent. I've never had an issue on my previous bikes, nor have I been able to reproduce it on my gf's Vision.

I don't want to say I'm glad other people on this forum are experiencing the same issue, but I am kinda relieved that I'm not the only one. Every time I've tried to describe it to other Victory owners, no one seems to know what I'm talking about.
 

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Still don't understand why you guys think changing the oil or oil brand will make a difference.
Oil has nothing to do with your shifting its you. Lazy foot bad clutch adjustment or wrong linkage adjustment. Maybe you have bad gears or even clutch plates.
You can go 5000 miles or more on one oil change what makes you think that at 2000 miles your oil is causing the problem. Why would Vic say you can go 5000 if they new it would cause shifting problems.
Have any of you ever read where Kevinx or Rylan has said change your oil and your shifting problems will go away.
Some times simple things work:smile Sometimes they don't :frown
 

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I have the same problem. Sure doesn't seem right. It may be technique, but I have never rode any other bike that does it. When I down shift I generaly ease the clutch out for a smooth transition. That is when I notice the ratcheting. If I just down shift and dump the clutch I will not notice it, but I don't like throwing my passenger forward. I assume it has to be a built in mechanical safety feature to keep from grinding the gears?
 

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I have never had any other bikes that have done this either (this is my 5th) but it happens on my Vic. I also don't really care because I always rev-match when down-shifting. I just personally don't worry about it. I have almost 26,000 miles and I don't have a single issue with it, so it's good enough for me.
 

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I have the same problem. Sure doesn't seem right. It may be technique, but I have never rode any other bike that does it. When I down shift I generaly ease the clutch out for a smooth transition. That is when I notice the ratcheting. If I just down shift and dump the clutch I will not notice it, but I don't like throwing my passenger forward. I assume it has to be a built in mechanical safety feature to keep from grinding the gears?
rev the engine a bit and let clutch out when down shifting
your passenger will be fine
 
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