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My dealer said time for a new tire, plenty of tread left and its only slight cupping. He gave me a quote for avon Venoms f/r i think they were radials not sure.

But research here and there tells me to go with the 407/408 HD dunlops.

I say mention that JP cycles carries but cant find there nor any of the other online places.

Can someone provide me with places to get them from.
Should I really worry about changing the rear at 6500 miles?
 

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Should I really worry about changing the rear at 6500 miles?
Depends. Take a picture and post it.

Tires lose elasticity and grip over time and heat cycles. Old tires get cracks that give their age away. Newer tires that get used hard may lose grip before the tread is gone.

Many types of tires on many types of bikes wear into deformed patterns. Its been said that proper inflation helps, but I'm pretty good about keeping tires in air and I've still had a bunch that "cupped." I've never replaced any of them before they reached their wear bars and none of them gave me any more trouble than any other worn tire i.e. their handling degrades. That's why new tires ALWAYS make a bike feel like a new machine.

Riding is no fun if it's going to make you anxious that something awful is going to happen. If it makes you feel more secure to replace things that are beginning to show their age, then do it. You don't need our approval.
 

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I got ya, its just that the dealer said 6k is about the limit. Do the stock rubber rear go that soon. Still cant get a handle on the HD 407 tire. I only find a bunch of radial for the rear.
 

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I got ya, its just that the dealer said 6k is about the limit. Do the stock rubber rear go that soon. Still cant get a handle on the HD 407 tire. I only find a bunch of radial for the rear.
I've ridden sport bikes for most of my life. On a track, some won't last a thousand miles. In the hot south, they might only last 3k miles. To me 6k miles sounds pretty good, though I'll admit I'm goofy over the fact my first set of tires on the XR lasted 11k miles!

Why do you want a tire designed for a Harley on it. Did someone convince you that stamping a bar and shield into a standard Dunlop makes it worth twice the price? I've easily banged up the floorboards on a Kingpin with stock tires without them even breaking a sweat. IOW, they are more than capable of doing anything a KP is capable of doing.

Anyway, I typically get my buns at Competition Accessories or Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse (MAW) and can testify that both are excellent distributors with tons of products and great prices.
 

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The 407 is a multi compound tire, and most claim superior mileage and handling on a pin with them. They might be on par in price to pin oem tires.

Besides the way these oem tires act on groovy cement highways and over tar snakes and joints, does make pucker at times.

Michelin commanders were awesome on my royal star even worn and cupped compared to Dunlop 404. Can only a front in the commander 2 no rear listed, **** the rear isn't even listed on Dunlop's site

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I got ya, its just that the dealer said 6k is about the limit. Do the stock rubber rear go that soon. Still cant get a handle on the HD 407 tire. I only find a bunch of radial for the rear.
I don't know how you drive but I'm at 12000 on my XC and have a good bit left to the wear bars. And I'm in the hot south with rough roads. I don't have any cupping either.
 

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Try to think of one compelling reason from the dealers POV to tell you not to get a new tire.

Just saying.
 

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Try to think of one compelling reason from the dealers POV to tell you not to get a new tire.

Just saying.
I thought that too, just didn't say it. I was trying to give benefit of the doubt in case the dealer primarily deals with sport bike guys. I understand they really eat up the rubber.
 

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Riding is no fun if it's going to make you anxious that something awful is going to happen. If it makes you feel more secure to replace things that are beginning to show their age, then do it. You don't need our approval.
That sir is a great point. It's hard to put a price on peace of mind.
 

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I change a lot of tires.

95% of the time, a cupped tire is a sign of under-inflation. I know - the owner's manual says one thing and maybe the tire manufacturer says the same - or not. One thing is for sure - you're going to have to go higher than what the manual says, if you don't want tire cupping.

A contributing factor is that nobody will spend $8 for a decent tire gauge. WalMart $1 tire gauges and usually not all that accurate.

A Harley tire on a Victory? Say it isn't so ! :ltr:

Actually, some of those "Harley" tires are pretty decent. The D401's have a 5-ply tread and three ply sidewall. STIFF SOBs. ;)

In my mind, Avons are a bit soft, and over priced.

Want a premium tire? Try a Metzler 880 or Dunlop Elite 3.
 

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That Harley Dunlop D407 is awesome. I got 20k miles out of my last one. It was pretty thin by then, but still holding air. I try not to do hard down shifts and keep my tire pressure up.

Look around for that dunlop. Lots of hardley places sell tires on line at pretty good prices. It just sucks that is says hardley on the tire, but oh well.

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I just purchased a Dunlop D407 for my 07 KP. From everyone who has had them I'm convinced this is the best tire available for the rear 18" wheel of the kingpin. If the Kingpin had a 16" rear wheel like other bikes it would give us more options but then the KP wouldn't be the sexiest Victory on the road. :p
 

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I had to replace my tires this spring on my 08 due to a screw in the rear tire.
I ended up going with the Bridgestone Exedra radials. I know there are arguments on both sides for the radial on the KP. But, I must say I haven't had any issues and the bike handles and rides great on these. I put 1800 miles on them (road around Superior) a week after I put them on and had no issues at all.

Was about $400 out the door, mounted and balanced
G850/G851 Exedra
 

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I ran Metzler Marathons on mine. 180 Radial on rear and OEM size Bias on front. Could not have asked for better handling, wet or dry from that combo. Metzler does specify air pressure for that rear, different from the owners manual. When I changed to Dyna Beads for balancing, it got even better.
 
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