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I saw that no one else had posted anything about this anywhere else on here, very sad day for bikers when someone can kill 7, injured 3 others and then go home to their family as if they had done no wrong.

https://www.kktv.com/content/news/Officials-seek-help-in-deadly-motorcycle-crash-probe-511682731.html
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/latest-bikers-mourn-deadly-crash-vow-families-63883107#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQA&cid=referral_taboola_feed
 

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Incredible, from what I could tell he ran them over from behind. What the heck did he do, fall asleep?
 

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Craig Ripley mentioned this tragedy in his video diary. He really took it hard, which got to me as well. Live, love and ride hard, we never know when its going to be over...

https://youtu.be/t6hrvNrYNnw
 

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I have heard unconfirmed stories that the pickup drifted right into the oncoming lane and then jerked back into correct lane. This caused an over-correction which led to trailer instability and eventual jack-knifing of the trailer such that the trailer went sideways into the oncoming lane and took out the bikers. Again, this is an unconfirmed story at this point.
 

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Yeah, in the photos you could see the truck was pulling a very large trailer which to me looks too big for a standard pick up truck to be towing.
I'm wondering if he had trailer brakes hooked up of possibly lost his brakes all together. Other than what's mentioned above, intoxicated, or distracted driving it's the only thing that would make sense for plowing into the back of any vehicles whether cars or bikes.
 

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how totally tragic, my heart and tears go out to those killed, injured and they're families...

I see there is a go fund me page setup for them...very good.

Stay safe all.....

Rob
 

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Yeah, in the photos you could see the truck was pulling a very large trailer which to me looks too big for a standard pick up truck to be towing.
I'm wondering if he had trailer brakes hooked up of possibly lost his brakes all together. Other than what's mentioned above, intoxicated, or distracted driving it's the only thing that would make sense for plowing into the back of any vehicles whether cars or bikes.
The truck is a Ram 2500 Diesel which can tow up to 17,500 lbs and it appears the trailer was empty. Either way it would appear that this was a tragic accident that was likely caused by a drowsy/drugged or distracted driver. Based on this guys history of drunk driving there is no way he should have had a commercial DL.
 

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What would trigger the need for a commercial driver's license? Would driving that large a truck require it? Would pulling that large a trailer require it? Would being employed to drive a vehicle/trailer that size require it? I'm not being a smart-a$$. I truly know nothing about CDLs and am wondering what triggers a requirement to have one. It cannot simply be driving for business. Uber drivers and sales persons show drive cars as a significant part of their job don't require a CDL so it must be something more. What is the trigger?
 

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The truck is a Ram 2500 Diesel which can tow up to 17,500 lbs and it appears the trailer was empty. Either way it would appear that this was a tragic accident that was likely caused by a drowsy/drugged or distracted driver. Based on this guys history of drunk driving there is no way he should have had a commercial DL.
Yeah, I didn't see it was a Dodge 2500. So you are right that they are generally rated for that kind of towing and it was a 5th wheel type rig which normally would not fishtail.
As to the CDL, usually it's not required for this type of vehicle but the fact the driver worked for a commercial trucking company you would think they would have known his driving record in order to employ him in a driving type job. My company has let go of people who drive our vehicles for DWI's that happened on their own time.

My wife drives a School Bus and has her CDL along with passenger endorsement. They have a very low tolerance for driving infractions and a close to zero tolerance for Alcohol. If she were to blow more than a .04 driving in her own car she can lose her license.
 

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Most States require a CDL when the GCWR of the truck and trailer exceed a certain limit or certain number of passengers, here in Texas it is 26,000lbs, but others states vary.
 

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These types of truck and trailer combo's are referred to as "HotShots" and ANYTIME you are operating a motor vehicle for any company hauling passengers or cargo for pay (IE commerce) https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registration/commercial-drivers-license/drivers , you are mandated to have a Commercial Drivers License. Yes Ubers, lyft, etc get away with not having BUT they should have AND if it were up to me EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL in this country would have to pass the CDL test to get a drivers license. It would reduce the number of idiots on the road. Here is a nice enlightening article on Uber and Lyft. Might make some think twice before using these forms of transportation. https://www.policygenius.com/blog/insurance-secret-uber-doesnt-want-know/
Not to say there are not idiot truck drivers, but far fewer of them are idiots compared to the average cage driving morons. I have had a CDL for 26 years. Even longer than I have had a cycle endorsement (yes, I rode since I was 8 without. Got one after a discussion I had with a local police officer some 20 years or so ago. :angel )
 
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