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That's twice! I'm pissed. :mad:That shouldn't be happening. First time I thought maybe I didn't get it back on right after I washed her. This time it had been on for a while and I was having to drive though some rough road in a construction area and it must have shook loose.

Luckily both times i was going fairly slow and the damage was minimal. Just some scuffs and scrapes on the leather. Much more damage done to my ego as I was riding around with guys on metric cruisers who now think it's funny to make fun of the bike that has stuff falling off of it...

Can someone help me find the thread about bolting the bags on? I searched and I can't find it...
 

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That's twice! I'm pissed. :mad:That shouldn't be happening. First time I thought maybe I didn't get it back on right after I washed her. This time it had been on for a while and I was having to drive though some rough road in a construction area and it must have shook loose.

Luckily both times i was going fairly slow and the damage was minimal. Just some scuffs and scrapes on the leather. Much more damage done to my ego as I was riding around with guys on metric cruisers who now think it's funny to make fun of the bike that has stuff falling off of it...

Can someone help me find the thread about bolting the bags on? I searched and I can't find it...
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Ditto what noemtz said. If you get them, it's still a good thing to check for tightness occasionally. If you have a Vic Lock & Ride backrest, you'll need to shorten the rear screws as they interfere with the locking levers.
 

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I only have the Grasshopper drivers backrest. I like what Brukus has to offer, but $38?!?!?

I guess it's a worthy investment, but I thought I has seen a thread where someone did something on their own for like $5...
 

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I only have the Grasshopper drivers backrest. I like what Brukus has to offer, but $38?!?!?

I guess it's a worthy investment, but I thought I has seen a thread where someone did something on their own for like $5...
What's it worth to avoid getting laughed at some more? Sure, you can go to your local ACE Hardware and get similar (but not the same) components, or Brukus can send to your door the real deal. Your call. cheers
 

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Well, it's worth alot, but you've made no case for why the brukus product will prevent laughing and Ace HW route won't.

Phrases like "the real deal" and "not the same" are meaningless. Tell me WHY I should spend the money and I'll tell you if it's worth it.

I do see a little benefit to the proprietary wrench that makes the brukus more secure. But if i go to Ace and use torx bolts, how many thieves walk around with wrenches? AND, how many smart thieves can just go to the brukus website and buy his wrench?
Again, I've not decided that the brukus isn't worth it. I may very well go that route, but not because i think i have to pay more to not get laughed at or because i think brukus is the only "real deal".

In fact, here is a big reason i may buy from brukus:
ALL of our products are Made In The U.S.A. and designed by a ... Navy Vet!

Same reason I like buying from Grasshopper and Witchdoctor and other locals. :)
 

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Yeah, I had the same thoughts - price - a few months ago, when I somewhat reluctantly purchased the Brukus item for my XCT bags. (I also figured that I spent this much already on the XCT itself, what's a few more.)

In any event, I emailed Brukus afterward, telling them that I liked the product, but that I thought they would sell more if they could see their way to lowering the price somewhat. Here is part of the email response I got from them (and I'm guessing that they won't mind my sharing this part of their email - if not, my apologies in advance):


In answer to your question about our pricing - a Victory rider cannot simply go to the hardware store and purchase all the parts to our Victory SaddlebagSecure - and it's not just a matter of them purchasing an inferior product. Each screw/bolt is not only a special order, but once we receive the bolts, we then have to machine each one so that it fits properly on the Victory Cross bike. You cannot just go out and purchase these bolts. So the product that you received is designed especially for your Victory bike. Our Harley SaddlebagSecure does not have to go through this process because a standard security bolt will fit it. But we also go through this process in 2 different ways for each of the hard or leather bags for Victory. So we produce 2 different kits because of the attaching design of the different bags.

Our Victory SaddlebagSecure is the only kit this is required for. If this were not the case, we would be selling it at the same price as the Harley SaddlebagSecure.

We price this product based on the time involved in producing it, material costs, overhead costs, insurance costs, packaging costs, etc. as any manufacturer does who wishes to remain in business. Every part that goes into this product went up in price January 1st of this year and our shipping costs just went up also.

But we also offer the [Victory Motorcycle Forum] members a discount. I hope you took advantage of this - and if not, I will be glad to apply that to your purchase.

I hope this answers your question and please know that you have a far superior product than anything purchased separately from a hardware store and it is cheap insurance compared to the cost of losing one or both bags.



So, bottom line is that I agree with the others here that this is the way to go (although I don't have experience with the leather bags).
 

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I like it when posters answer their own questions. I bought from Brukus, Noemtz, Lloydz, etc. for the same reasons. Now maybe you'd like to buy my lay down license bracket, made by another Navy vet.
 

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Thanks for everyone's posts and all the info. I will be going through Brukus! :)
 

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At first, my reason for not buying the Brukus was that I didn't think it would be as practical to take off the bags - I liked the factory option better for the quick and easy release. As time went by, I realized that I hardly ever take the bags off, so the quick disconnect is really not that important. Not dropping a $1,000 saddlebag on the freeway is the higher priority.
 

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See this link and save cash and postage time:

http://www.victoryforums.com/archive/index.php/t-11703.html

The benefits of the Brukus and the DIY are that your bags can't fall off and are difficult to steal because the Dzus fittings are replaced with bolts (allen, hex, torx, security torx - your choice).
 

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I went the cheaper route, but it's not $5. Closer to about $15. I did this right after buying the bike and was unaware of the Brukus ones.

I wasn't able to find the right parts at the local Ace, but did at the Home Depot. I removed the pins and the clips and ran over there. Picked up four Alan wrench bolts (stainless) and four C-Clips for them to screw in to...maybe the washers too...don't recall off hand. Ppushed the bolts through the rubber grommets and washer, clipped the C-Clip on and screwed them down. Works great, no wiggle, etc.

On one hand, my setup is just as secure as the Brukus...you have to get in to the locked bags first just to access the bolts. And, if you have Alan wrenches in your tool collection, chances are decent you have a security bit set too. I do and the set is less than $20 at most hardware stores. If they really, really want it...they'll take it. That's just how it works.

On the other hand, you're talking about only saving about $25 to secure $1000 bags on a $15000+ motorcycle that you'll probably have for years to come...so it's not that much more money. Either route will work just fine. Only true benefit I could see is if Brukus offers some sort of guarantee to pay your deductible if things are stolen...and I'm not aware of one.
 

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I forgot the third benefit, they'll hold your bags on in a crash! I rolled my bike sideways then nosed it against a gravel mound and both bags were shattered but the bins stayed on the bike.
 

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Well, it's worth alot, but you've made no case for why the brukus product will prevent laughing and Ace HW route won't.

Phrases like "the real deal" and "not the same" are meaningless. Tell me WHY I should spend the money and I'll tell you if it's worth it.

I do see a little benefit to the proprietary wrench that makes the brukus more secure. But if i go to Ace and use torx bolts, how many thieves walk around with wrenches?
And who would steal a purpose made saddlebag for a bike that already comes with them stock?

I watched the Brukus video as the guy labored with a screwdriver. He could have simply opened the unlockable bag and turned the Dzus style fasterner. Not sure who he would sell it to since everyone already has one with their bike.

FWIW, I have found my fastners undone twice now. Fortunately, one was still in tact in both cases.

If worrying about them being stolen externally was an issue, then I could see the value of the $35 Brukus screws, but since I'm not, I'm with you. I want more info that shows WHY they are less likely to back out.
 

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Did the same thing when I had the Road King. All the talk of bags being stolen or falling off with the dzus fastners.

It was off to ACE hardware for round allen head bolts, "J" nuts and washers. Not rocket science, and if there's a hardware store in your area, why pay several times over and have to wait for delivery?
 

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This discussion reminded me I intended to place an order from Brukus. I did that this afternoon. Couldn't find the discount for Forum users so I contacted Brukus after the order. Got this response back immediately, which may allow others to say a few bucks:

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Yes. Offer a forum discount, but it's a link somewhere on the site. I can't remember how every site works.


Here is the link if you want to post it on the site: http://brukus.com/cgi-bin/p/awtp-product-category.cgi?d=brukus-motorcycle-parts&pc=12573


And I will post the discount to your account.


Thanks!!


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Ditto what noemtz said. If you get them, it's still a good thing to check for tightness occasionally. If you have a Vic Lock & Ride backrest, you'll need to shorten the rear screws as they interfere with the locking levers.
I thought the same thing initially but then realized I just needed to back off the bolts to allow the arm on the backrest to swing closed. Then screw the bolt back in and it actually is another theft deterent for the backrest. Take much more effort to remove the backrest if Brukus bolt is all the way in.
 

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I thought the same thing initially but then realized I just needed to back off the bolts to allow the arm on the backrest to swing closed. Then screw the bolt back in and it actually is another theft deterent for the backrest. Take much more effort to remove the backrest if Brukus bolt is all the way in.
Could use the Brukus for the front connection only - that way one could split the kit with someone else and cut their cost in half. :D Am I getting too creative here?
 
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