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Why did you pick K&N?

They are old news. No one who customizes cars or bikes for power rely on them anymore since they are midrange, and are always beaten in side by side comparisons by other brands.

Buy what you want of course, I'm just confused by the choice.
 

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Not bashing, just asking a question... don't shoot me :cool:


Why did you pick K&N?

They are old news. No one who customizes cars or bikes for power rely on them anymore since they are midrange, and are always beaten in side by side comparisons by other brands.

Buy what you want of course, I'm just confused by the choice.
What other choice do we have? The Stage 1 Victory filters are rusted out of the box. I don't want rust particles in my engine. If K&N are old news, which they are, then what else is out there for the Cross bikes? Nothing. :rolleyes:
 

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What other choice do we have? The Stage 1 Victory filters are rusted out of the box. I don't want rust particles in my engine. If K&N are old news, which they are, then what else is out there for the Cross bikes? Nothing. :rolleyes:
Are the Vic Stage 1 filters a clean and oil type or a disposable paper type?
 

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Are the Vic Stage 1 filters a clean and oil type or a disposable paper type?
Clean and oil. The only gripe I have against them, and the reason I did not get one, is that some of them come rusty from the box, brand new. :eek:
 

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Do you run the rest of the Stage 1 or similar?
I don't have stage 1. I have a set of D&D slip-ons, stock air filter (the paper boy), with filter lip removed, and O² sensors disconnected.
 

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I don't have stage 1. I have a set of D&D slip-ons, stock air filter (the paper boy), with filter lip removed, and O² sensors disconnected.
Do you have problems with blipping the throttle? I was considering those last two mods, but if it's going to make the engine die when I blip to downshift I'll pass.
 

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Do you have problems with blipping the throttle? I was considering those last two mods, but if it's going to make the engine die when I blip to downshift I'll pass.
Mine does not have any problems on throttle blipping, but Victory does suggest against throttle blipping. If you don't have problems with blipping now, I don't think you will once you add pipes either.
 

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Mine does not have any problems on throttle blipping, but Victory does suggest against throttle blipping. If you don't have problems with blipping now, I don't think you will once you add pipes either.
Sorry, I wasn't referring to the pipes, I have the Stage 1 pipe change and I'm happy with the sound or mostly lack-thereof. I was referring to the O2 and airbox changes. I read some old posts that indicated bikes would die when blipped. I can't imagine why Victory would warn against such a thing? That's like advising against revving the engine.
 

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You said I was bashing your post.
I beg your pardon I was saying what is true facts. Yes K&N would give you maybe at best 1 to 2 horse.
Is it worth it? $ 59 dollars verses $15 dollars.
I'm saying no and if you would have spent a little time and read about air filters you would be so pushy for one horse.
By the way I do believe you have not agreed with all post and you have said so.
No I'm not bashing I'm just giving pros and cons.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest2.htm
 

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What other choice do we have? The Stage 1 Victory filters are rusted out of the box.
I changed my oil, disconnected my O2 sensors, and removed the air box rubber lip last week. While doing the latter, I had the opportunity to peak in at the air box. I am happy to report seeing no rust. I also didn't see any oil on the filter. Seems like I remember K&Ns coming pre-oiled and pink. This one's element is as white as Edgar Winter.
 

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I know of wings with over 300,000 miles using a K&N filter. Engines never opened never an issue. I had 70,000 miles on my wing with one installed when I sold it. Again not a problem. Now many of you may be different than me but I know for a fact I will not own my current bike long enough to accumulate 300,000 miles. Chit, They always come out with something new I want long before I would ever have to worry about any of this.

In the end its really not a big deal. Don't likey don't sign or buy, likey go ahead and sign.
 

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Watch out for little black pieces of the screen wire from manufacturing when you first install K&Ns. Valves and rings don't like them.
Tap them on a white paper towell and vacuum from the inside. After I seen this no more K&Ns .waccheers
 

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By the way so you know K&N air filters are made in Taiwan
 

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K&N filters are far better than a rust filled filter made by the same government that we lost over 58,000 of America's best fighting against. Sorry, but anything is better than buying products from the Vietnamese!!! Thanks Cross Roads for your efforts!
 
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