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Okay, so last summer I noticed my forks leaking, being the DYI type I researched it and went to work. Upon completion I was having severe trouble getting the correct amount of fork oil in the forks. So instead of wasting my whole weekend I took it the local shop and had them finish the job for me. Well it was still kinda loose upfront for my likes but really haven't been riding this last year. Now that I am able to ride more I noticed once again that there is a small amount of fork oil on the forks above the dust cover/seals which BTW I noticed one was starting to crack.

My question is this - is there anything else in those forks that might cause the squishiness that would need to be replaced if the fork oil and seals are good so to speak. (BTW yes I know cracking on rubber is not good and they should be replaced that is obvious. I am asking because if I replace it again and it is still squishy, I need to know where to go from there.)

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BTW 2003 Vegas
 

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Update -

I finally got to redo the forks and seals. I put the recommended amount with 70mm (actually did 67mm from top from the top due to the -+ of 3mm according to the service manual) of a fully compressed shock with no spring or spacer. I reinstalled the forks and they still seem soft for me.

Any suggestions do I add alittle more fork oil? is my cartridge or spring shot? Thanks in advance.
 

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I serviced my forks a few months ago. They weren't leaking, it was just time to change the fluid out. I added 10mm on top of the recommended fill amount. My forks feel rather squishy also, but they always did. After riding a few thousand miles, and some very twisty roads, I haven't had any handling concerns or issues with them.

I know this doesn't help you much, but that's my experience with these forks.

The only way I know to stiffen them up is to change the spring, or maybe add a spacer.
 

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you want stiffer go to a heavier weight. PJ1 makes several different weights.
You should go to dealer and push up and down on some and see what they feel like

Keep in mind the stiffer the front end the longer it takes you to stop
 

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These forks are fairly soft in action, stock.
Squishy to me implies a noise.
Like VJ said, go and compare em with a new Vegas.
Your bikes an 03 so its 12 years old, how many miles?
These forks are fairly simple to work on once you know a few tricks, I did mine a while back and theyre due for another fork oil change again soon.,
I used a quality Full Synthetic fork oil, not the standard slop.
I also added an extra 5mm as an experiment and may try an extra 10 mm next time, and maybe up the grade to 15.

If you think your forks are worn out then I presume a couple of firk legs from a newer wreck may be a good way to go.

Also I clean my seals with a home made seal cleaner every time they start leaving smegma on my forktubes.
The top seal is actually just a dust cover that is pried up the access the actual seals for cleaning.
 
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conventional forks

your conventional forks are prolly damper rods not the cartridges used in the USD forks. a search will reveal lots of ways to stiffen them. my 2012 service manual shows a damper rod unit. there are preload spacers that can be lengthened, the springs can be changed as well as heavier or more fluid. if you think its worth it a suspension specialist can "tune" them to suit you. a cartridge "may" be available as well which is better than old tech damper rods.
 

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me too...just for use of the word smegma.
Ill say it again then. 'SMEGMA'
Gotta keep dem fork seals clean to stop that unsightly Smegma from appearing like dirty high tide marks on your nice shiny fork tubes.
 

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I thought the term was "schlemick".

That must be for the USD units.

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I thought the term was "schlemick".

That must be for the USD units.

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No mate , that "schlemick" sounds more Russian to me.
Smegma is the term, and as for USD...well mate ya cant get more USD than Downunder!
What don't we want???
Smegma!
When don't we want it???
NOW!!!

(Good to see my sense of humour returning hey!)
man ya gotta larf or ya go nutz
 

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I serviced my forks a few months ago. They weren't leaking, it was just time to change the fluid out. I added 10mm on top of the recommended fill amount. My forks feel rather squishy also, but they always did. After riding a few thousand miles, and some very twisty roads, I haven't had any handling concerns or issues with them.

I know this doesn't help you much, but that's my experience with these forks.

The only way I know to stiffen them up is to change the spring, or maybe add a spacer.
Actually this helped me A LOT!! I had already decided to go with the 10w oil. After reading your post I went back out and added till i got 10 MM more like you stated you did. This little amount seem to work for me. I got about 500 miles on them now and they handle a lot better and don't nose dive when breaking. I went with Amsoil 10w fork oil, was cheaper than the Victory oil and I think it is better.
 

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Actually this helped me A LOT!! I had already decided to go with the 10w oil. After reading your post I went back out and added till i got 10 MM more like you stated you did. This little amount seem to work for me. I got about 500 miles on them now and they handle a lot better and don't nose dive when breaking. I went with Amsoil 10w fork oil, was cheaper than the Victory oil and I think it is better.
10 mm hey and is it a full synthethic?
 

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Since I bought this vegas a year ago, front left fork has leaked a couple of times. Both times, I used 35mm film to run around the top of the seal, clean the pretty chrome above it, and leak went byebye. :angel

It ain't squishy... yeah I know it needs to be changed out. It needs to be ridden too! :D
 

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real viscosity = centistokes

again fork fluids have NO standardized testing for their actual thickness, you need to at least state the brand used or better yet its true viscosity stated in centistokes. top quality fluids like Redline state exactly the specs of their fluids
 

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Thanks, I'll go extra 10 mm next time I change fork oil.
 
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