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How can I tell if the bike I bought has the stage 1 kit with slip ons? I've been looking on ebay at the stage 1 kits. The kits that come with slip ons look like stock mufflers to me. I bought my bike on ebay from a dealer in California but I've found it was a repossession from Arizona. I've seen some bikes on line with the slip on stage 1 kit but it's hard to tell from a picture. No one local owns a victoy that I know of to ask.
 

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Diamond!

there should be some sort of markings on the pipes themselves like a serial number to symbolize they are slip ons, or take it to the local dealer and see if it has been remapped or just call victory and ask them i'm sure they'll know. I'm not really sure though just what i would do, i'm sure diamond will chime in soon and let us all know! ha
 

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If you look in the end. If the interior cap with the hole is very close to the lip then it is stock. The slip ons cap is set deeper and the hole is a bit larger,

This is the pic of a stock exhaust. Stage one will have a larger hole and it will be set deeper into the exhaust. Also if you take the slip ons off the inside area of the slip on facing the frame will have stamped on it "for off road use only"

 

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Thanks guys. Bike is a 2007 Vegas. I'll check the mufflers out when I get home tonight. From the pictures Diamond posted I'm pretty sure mine must be the Stage ones.
 

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Definitely have the stage one slip ons. The holes are considerably larger than the pictures Diamond posted. Just to be sure I got my inspection mirror and looked between the mufflers and rear wheel. The stampings said "intended for competiton use on closed course only. On road use may violate federal law". Now since my ECM has been remapped for the slip ons can I put a set of swept pipes on later if I find a deal? Or does each style of pipe require different remapping? Sorry for all the questions but this site has been the best source for info I can find.
 

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pretty much, every diferent type of exhaust will require a new mapping, go the power commander route, nomatter what type of exhaust you put on it it can be tuned to a finer degree using the p.c. even after re mapping you can still get a finer degree of tuning using the power commander, i hear that Lloyds also has an aftermarket ecu tuner, altho i personally have never had any experience with Lloyds, I have personally rode my buds 05 hammer with 106 S&S cams, pistons, head work, up- compression , it had a flat spot between 2800 - 3000 rpm the dlr fiddled & fiddled with it finally we took it to a shop in Anaheim that specializes in the power commander, installed one, dynoed it, the numbers are 108.74 hp 105.62 torque again I rode her absolutely noooo flat spot, runs like a bat out of hell, yea man ....

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pretty much, every diferent type of exhaust will require a new mapping, go the power commander route, nomatter what type of exhaust you put on it it can be tuned to a finer degree using the p.c. even after re mapping you can still get a finer degree of tuning using the power commander, i hear that Lloyds also has an aftermarket ecu tuner, altho i personally have never had any experience with Lloyds, I have personally rode my buds 05 hammer with 106 S&S cams, pistons, head work, up- compression , it had a flat spot between 2800 - 3000 rpm the dlr fiddled & fiddled with it finally we took it to a shop in Anaheim that specializes in the power commander, installed one, dynoed it, the numbers are 108.74 hp 105.62 torque again I rode her absolutely noooo flat spot, runs like a bat out of hell, yea man ....

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slight correction steve,

a power commander is a tuner, therefore it requires a dyno each and every time you re map, well its not absoulutly needed but for best results it is highly recommended, i would go with a fuel tuner personnaly i know lloydz has one that is great you just dial in your combination and go, but thats my two cents
 

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pretty much, every diferent type of exhaust will require a new mapping, go the power commander route, nomatter what type of exhaust you put on it it can be tuned to a finer degree using the p.c. even after re mapping you can still get a finer degree of tuning using the power commander, i hear that Lloyds also has an aftermarket ecu tuner, altho i personally have never had any experience with Lloyds, I have personally rode my buds 05 hammer with 106 S&S cams, pistons, head work, up- compression , it had a flat spot between 2800 - 3000 rpm the dlr fiddled & fiddled with it finally we took it to a shop in Anaheim that specializes in the power commander, installed one, dynoed it, the numbers are 108.74 hp 105.62 torque again I rode her absolutely noooo flat spot, runs like a bat out of hell, yea man ....

steve
Actually that's not entirely true. The S&S download or 05 Hammer Stage 1 Drag download is whats recommended for aftermarket pipes IF you are not using a tuner. Either of those downloads work on any aftermarket pipes.

If you decide to go with a tuner you have to go back to the stock download.
 
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