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Anyone ever have starter problems on your vision, I was going to change the oil, and it wouldn't start just click, I had the battery and solenoid checked, they were both good, I cleaned all the connections, still does the same thing. I'm thinking the starter must be locked up, I'm hoping if it is that it's covered by the extended warranty, but that thing is hard to get on A trailer when it won't run, so I was wondering if one of you guys have had this problem and could give me some idea about what it could be. Thanks Larry
 

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Anyone ever have starter problems on your vision, I was going to change the oil, and it wouldn't start just click, I had the battery and solenoid checked, they were both good, I cleaned all the connections, still does the same thing. I'm thinking the starter must be locked up, I'm hoping if it is that it's covered by the extended warranty, but that thing is hard to get on A trailer when it won't run, so I was wondering if one of you guys have had this problem and could give me some idea about what it could be. Thanks Larry
Sorry to hear the problem Jack. What year you got? I had mine go out within 6 months/7k on my 2011 which was first attributed to battery but that was not the issue (now have a spare sitting on the trickle charger). Covered under warrenty (bought bike new oct 2012) with no issues. Two other Vic riders I know of both with 11's had same within first year of new bike. Shoot for the shop first as I remember its about 300 for a new one.

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Anyone ever have starter problems on your vision, I was going to change the oil, and it wouldn't start just click, I had the battery and solenoid checked, they were both good, I cleaned all the connections, still does the same thing. I'm thinking the starter must be locked up, I'm hoping if it is that it's covered by the extended warranty, but that thing is hard to get on A trailer when it won't run, so I was wondering if one of you guys have had this problem and could give me some idea about what it could be. Thanks Larry
What is your battery Voltage? How did you have the battery and relay tested?
 

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Have you checked the voltage at the starter while trying to start?
I would check the battery voltage before starting, during starting, and check the voltage right at the starter.

These readings can tell you a lot about what might be wrong.
Battery voltage should really be over 12.25 before trying to start it.
Battery voltage should drop some during starting, usually not below 10 volts, though. If the voltage does not drop on the battery terminal it means that the starter is not getting loaded on - bad wiring, starter or solenoid/relay. If it drops a whole lot, then it can be a locked engine, or a bad starter, loading the good battery down.

Check the voltage at the starter terminal. Is it getting battery voltage? If not, then it may be a bad connection, wire or bad solenoid.
 

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Some readings from an apparently healthy 2004 Kingpin; it has a month old AGM battery from a Friendly Local Auto Parts Store (FLAPS).
With the battery on a Jr battery tender it read 13.25 volts.
When the tender was removed, it still read 13.25 volts.
When the key was turned to ON, with the kill switch off, 12.75 volts.
When the kill switch was turned ON as well, 12.6 volts (fuel pump running, Fluke set to capture and display minimum volts.)
When the starter was engaged, 10.6 volts minimum capture.
Kill the bike, put the fluke on the starter itself, it looked as if minimum voltage indicated was 9.7 volts or so. This could not be read with the fluke capture mode, so I tried several times -this is the lowest non-zero reading I got, but it is still suspect, in my opinion. This would be best determined with an O'scope.

On cars, generally if the engine is locked, and everything else is healthy, I see as low as 7.x volts at the starter with a healthy battery and clean connections.

Another good way to test for bad connections is to try to start the engine, then feel for hot contacts. This is great for finding them, but can cause some very painful burns.
 

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Sorry to hear the problem Jack. What year you got? I had mine go out within 6 months/7k on my 2011 which was first attributed to battery but that was not the issue (now have a spare sitting on the trickle charger). Covered under warrenty (bought bike new oct 2012) with no issues. Two other Vic riders I know of both with 11's had same within first year of new bike. Shoot for the shop first as I remember its about 300 for a new one.

If you get a chance, update your sig with model/year/location and we can help faster and easier. Let us know what you find...

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Mine is also A 2011, I hope I have it solved, I boosted it with my other motorcycle and it started right up, even though the battery checked ok, I will be getting A new one in the morning, I hope this fixes it. Thanks for the reply
 

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What is your battery Voltage? How did you have the battery and relay tested?
I took the to the dealer, and had them load texted they checked fine, but an auto mechanic said that did not always work, sometimes they would show to be good, and still not have enough amps. So I boosted it with my other motorcycle, and it started right up, So I had the dealer to put me A new one on charge, pick it up in the morning, hope this is all it is. Thanks for the help.
 

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Mine is also A 2011, I hope I have it solved, I boosted it with my other motorcycle and it started right up, even though the battery checked ok, I will be getting A new one in the morning, I hope this fixes it. Thanks for the reply
Thanks everyone for all the replies, as all of you can tell by my questions that I am A long way from being A mechanic. Well new battery did not fix the problem, Took it to the shop yesterday, hope to find out something by Monday (12 30 13). When they know for sure what it is they will check if it is covered under warranty, if it is the starter, and not covered probably going to get it rebuilt, my dealer knows someone that can do it A lot cheaper than new.
 

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Thanks everyone for all the replies, as all of you can tell by my questions that I am A long way from being A mechanic. Well new battery did not fix the problem, Took it to the shop yesterday, hope to find out something by Monday (12 30 13). When they know for sure what it is they will check if it is covered under warranty, if it is the starter, and not covered probably going to get it rebuilt, my dealer knows someone that can do it A lot cheaper than new.
Mine was covered under warranty. Same symptoms as yours. Keep us posted
 

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Mine was covered under warranty. Same symptoms as yours. Keep us posted
mine is out of factory warranty and the extended warranty won't cover it, called Polaris, told them it had to be A defective starter that A bike with only 16000 miles should not be having starter problems, they said tough sh-- we don't care we won't help you, this is two things now and polaris would not consider it A problem, the other is the front fender that keeps braking. They want us to brag on these motorcycles, but when you have A problem you are on your own, so I'm pretty sure they don't want to ask me about there motorcycles.
 

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mine is out of factory warranty and the extended warranty won't cover it, called Polaris, told them it had to be A defective starter that A bike with only 16000 miles should not be having starter problems, they said tough sh-- we don't care we won't help you, this is two things now and polaris would not consider it A problem, the other is the front fender that keeps braking. They want us to brag on these motorcycles, but when you have A problem you are on your own, so I'm pretty sure they don't want to ask me about there motorcycles.
Doh! Well, never buy an extended warranty again. :eek: Some say it gives you peace of mind, but the peace of mind only lasts until you need the warranty.

Did you replace the relay? If you have and the problem did not go away, I would set up a jumper that goes from battery straight to to the starter, and when it does it again, jump it and see if the starter rolls. If it does, it's not the starter, (and since you would know it's not the relay) it would have to be the wiring. A poor contact will be a cheap but annoying problem to fix.
 

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mine is out of factory warranty and the extended warranty won't cover it, called Polaris, told them it had to be A defective starter that A bike with only 16000 miles should not be having starter problems, they said tough sh-- we don't care we won't help you, this is two things now and polaris would not consider it A problem, the other is the front fender that keeps braking. They want us to brag on these motorcycles, but when you have A problem you are on your own, so I'm pretty sure they don't want to ask me about there motorcycles.
Well told the dealer to get it rebuilt yesterday ( 01-02-14), today about 1 o'clock he called and said it was ready, fast service, the starter man said the brushes in the starter were burn't any way I have it fixed. Rebuilt starter usually about $150, but they helped out some on that price, and dealer cut the labor 1/2 hour, so the repair was A little over $100 cheaper than victorys starter price not counting labor, so I am happy with my dealer and the guy that built the starter, if you guys ever find yourself in Ringgold Georgia stop by north georgia powersports and tell William and the guys hello, great guys.
 

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Ok, dumb question, how to I edit my information so that I can input my signature at the bottom like you guys did so that I can input my bike information and such? Thanks.
 

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Ok, dumb question, how to I edit my information so that I can input my signature at the bottom like you guys did so that I can input my bike information and such? Thanks.
Well that blows on the warranty as I do think they had a bad lot. As for Georgia power sports, go figure that is where I bought my vision. Great group of folks there. Owner was awesome to deal with. Straight forward guy and doesn't surprise me they helped you out.

Signature. Up top hit USER CP and on the left you will see edit signature.

Safe ridin bud and if your out east give me a shout!
 

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Sorry to hear the problem Jack. What year you got? I had mine go out within 6 months/7k on my 2011 which was first attributed to battery but that was not the issue (now have a spare sitting on the trickle charger). Covered under warrenty (bought bike new oct 2012) with no issues. Two other Vic riders I know of both with 11's had same within first year of new bike. Shoot for the shop first as I remember its about 300 for a new one.

If you get a chance, update your sig with model/year/location and we can help faster and easier. Let us know what you find...

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Tried to update, hope it worked. About as good at computers as i am A mechanic.
 

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Well told the dealer to get it rebuilt yesterday ( 01-02-14), today about 1 o'clock he called and said it was ready, fast service, the starter man said the brushes in the starter were burn't any way I have it fixed. Rebuilt starter usually about $150, but they helped out some on that price, and dealer cut the labor 1/2 hour, so the repair was A little over $100 cheaper than victorys starter price not counting labor, so I am happy with my dealer and the guy that built the starter, if you guys ever find yourself in Ringgold Georgia stop by north georgia powersports and tell William and the guys hello, great guys.
Well talked to my dealer again, he said that the starter man said that what happened to my starter is caused by low voltage to the starter, I sure don't know how to up the voltage to it. I did read somewhere that someone had replaced their battery cables with stranded wire. Just wondering if that would help, I sure would hate to get out west some where and the starter quit again.
 

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Well talked to my dealer again, he said that the starter man said that what happened to my starter is caused by low voltage to the starter, I sure don't know how to up the voltage to it. ...
When the bike is garaged, make sure it's on a trickle charger. Otherwise the battery voltage will slowly drop and by the time you start it again, it might have just barely enough juice to start, so nothing would seem out of place.
 

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Star washers on the battery connections will help. You may of had a loose connection at the battery. It may if been tight enough to start but losing voltage.
 
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