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A friend of mine really likes the new Indians. They had their demo truck up north side of Phx. this weekend. So we went up there today. I really like the looks of the Indian Scout Bobber. Took it out. Really like the engine and transmission, very smooth shifting transmission, and engine ran good. The shocks were a shock to my back. The bike had the short little shocks on it, which did not work for me, I new they would not. The other thing it had the forward foot controls,so I was riding in a clam shell position they call it I think. So if I were to buy one it would need new longer shocks of course and mid mount foot peg/controls. I actually did like the bike, just not the ride. It was very easy to handle and more torque than I expected,and very smooth. The other cool thing is I felt comfortable on it at a light, I could sit flat footed. So yes I know I should had rode a regular Scout , maybe next time. Also they did have the new FTR1200 there, two of them actually. No they would not let me ride one, I did ask. I did get to sit on one, but they are to tall for me, almost like sitting on some dirt bikes to me. It was a cool looking bike, I do not actually care for the computer dash/screen, I like the old analog gauges. ..... So I did actually take out a white one, a Springfield. Very nice smooth riding bike, smooth trans, plenty of power. The engine has three modes of power. This bikes power mode was set on Sport, which is a little to on off on the throttle to me, to touchy. I did not know how to set it on standard or I would have. Am I going to buy one? Will not say never, but no money right now for a new or different bike. Will say I was impressed, for a large bike it is(like Victory) very well balanced and plenty of power. Do I feel like I have to have one down the rode, no not really, but the Springfield was very easy for me to handle even with my short legs. I could see a person very easily racking up 600 or 700 miles in a day on one, no problem.
 

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The dealer is having open house here this week with test rides. I'll go up there they have the new 1200 on display. I have test ridden the touring model and was not all that impressed with the power of the 111 inch motor. They generally have things on sale and there could be something I want.
 

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I think the 111 motor *probably* gets better with even a basic tune job. Most bikes do.

I'm not a huge fan of the looks but I don't want them to go out of business either. Indian is growing in the market and competition is always a good thing if we want better bikes down the road and less of the same.
 

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Theres a genuine perception of a better value with the Indian now. The motor to me is a total downgrade after knowing the Victory 106. Comparing IN to HD though, there is no contest IMO.
 

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I test drove all of them last year but the bike I enjoyed the most was the scout. Lots of get up and go on a small bike. Unfortunately for me my tall lanky frame has got used to all the real estate on my XR and even with the forward controls the scout was just too cramped for me. Long live my Cross Bike!
 

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I wont part with my Vic, but I also will NEVER buy anything Polaris is involved in, ever again. They demonstrated their loyalties by dumping on the Vics to go push a NAME for profits.
 

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I wont part with my Vic, but I also will NEVER buy anything Polaris is involved in, ever again. They demonstrated their loyalties by dumping on the Vics to go push a NAME for profits.
Yup... I can't trust Polaris. They were this […] close to having THE cruiser motorcycle line-up, but fumbled. Why quit high school halfway through the 12th grade? You're almost there!

Funny how they promote and market Indian so aggressively... why didn't they do that with Victory?

I would confidently put my 2006 Victory (in stock form) up against any new 2018 cruiser motorcycle in any contest you want to name. How would a 2006 Softail stack up against a 2018 Softail? Not very well.

Now... imagine if Victory had simply done incremental refining of the Kingpin/Vegas line over the years like Harley did to the Softails. Can you smell what I'm cookin'?

As far as Indian goes... a 111 cubic inch engine that puts out 74 horsepower? That's PATHETIC.
 

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Thats a better reason to not buy a Chief. Not because of a stupid business decision. If they ignore customer demands and dont bring back the 106 into Indian then they truly are ruining the business and losing customers. I think at this time we should be given some good reasons not to bring back the 106 by management. They are going to lose a lot of customers to Foreign bikes.
 

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As much as we all hate Polaris for dumping Victory, they made the best decision to maximize profits which is what a company is supposed to do. All of us on here love our Vics but the majority of the dwindling riding public didn't and still don't care about them. I feel the same in that I will never buy another Polaris product but I don't think they made a wrong move financially by dropping Vic and pushing Indian. In my neck of the woods you rarely ever see a Victory on the road but there are lots of Polaris Indians running around here.
 

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If your over 6ft tall there still is no bike better than Victory particularly the Vision and the XC Indians are not rooomy like Victory is. Nuff said.
 

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That is what sealed the deal for me when it came to my XR. I am 6'1" with legs longer than most at that height and the Cross bikes were the first and only bike that fit me with no modifications needed.
 

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That is what sealed the deal for me when it came to my XR. I am 6'1" with legs longer than most at that height and the Cross bikes were the first and only bike that fit me with no modifications needed.
6'3" and fit perfect on a CCT, and even better on my Jack-Hammer with 4" extensions ....
Indians look a cramped position to me ...

Andre using TaPaTaLk
 

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As far as Indian goes... a 111 cubic inch engine that puts out 74 horsepower? That's PATHETIC. - HC

Cant agree more. Why stick with push rods and an overheating engine anymore???? WHY?
 
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