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Test rode both bikes Thursday
1st the LT:
This is a great attempt at designing a classic style leather bagged cruiser. It is the most comfortable I have ridden to date. The power is exceptional and the handling and breaking excellent. The seat is as custom as it gets and the best I have seen any MFG put out. Fit and finish is nice and this bike is a nice compliment to the style of a Road King Classic. The 1700 twin is all day powerful and the 5 speed trans is smooth. The only thing that I didn't care for was the rattle in the motor during acceleration, The lack of a gear shift indicator, the flimsy Honda like leather bags although large and spoke wheels although there were WW radials mounted.

F6B
If you have never ridden a Gold wing like myself then I would try the F6B first. This thing is a freaking rocket. What a motor! truly one of the best in the MC world. The last bike that made me smile like this was a Boss Hoss. Clutch engagement is touchy as is the brakes but you get used to it. One thing I couldn't get used to was the foot position using the pegs. The chopped windshield has got to go. My head got plowed. The fairing otherwise is the best in the biz. I felt no wind below my neck LOL. The stereo was decent using component style speakers and I could hear it clean in the wind at 70 mph. The seating position also takes getting used to but I could have ridden this bike all day. Speaking of all day riding the bags are adequate at best but a backrest and luggage rack with a tour bag is all you need.

Only a 5 speed tranny and the lack of a shift indicator was disappointing. The lack of cruise control as we all know kind of added to the WTF factor. Otherwise put a good after market shield on it and a set of forward pegs and have a freaking blast! I would have one of these. I want to ride the Valkyrie next.
 

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Having owned an '03 Wing, I can attest to the smoothness and raw power these things have and you don't need any more than 5 gears IMO. One thing I really liked about the Wing was that you could go down as low as 50 km/h (30 mph) in 5th gear, crank the throttle and be gone without any hesitation or shuddering ... just pulls away effortlessly.

Having rode 2 1st generation Yamaha Ventures prior to the Wing, the peg position was easy to get used to although I did ride a 2nd gen for 3 years in between which has floorboards and a forward foot placement.

Really liked the Wing with the exception that it just didn't feel like a motorcycle ... more like a car.

There is a chance I will go back to a Wing in future, once I retire and we do our year long road trip.
 

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I really liked the F6B. I know the wing is a great bike too but I have yet to ride another bike that all around can out perform my XC. Especially after my motor mods. The Wing/F6B are quality machines. I look forward to future generations of these bikes. Imagine that 6 cylinder motor in a Vision. thumb up
 

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I looked at the F6B before I bought the Victory. Having owned a Valkyrie, I was aware of the mid-mount pegs and the issues they cause for my knees. Between that issue, inability to change the handlebars, no cruise and no ABS, I was turned off. It's a hell of a motor, but Honda needs to up their game in several areas. It made the XCT a no-brainer.
 

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I looked at the F6B before I bought the Victory. Having owned a Valkyrie, I was aware of the mid-mount pegs and the issues they cause for my knees. Between that issue, inability to change the handlebars, no cruise and no ABS, I was turned off. It's a hell of a motor, but Honda needs to up their game in several areas. It made the XCT a no-brainer.
So true. If I ever did get one I would tweak it to my liking. I heard a Rune with custom exhaust and a touch of custom parts that had everyone loving it at Bike week. What a sound. The wheels were quite the show stopper too. I looked at used Runes and they are not that used. A 10 yr old Rune still brings top $$. If I can find one for a decent price I would like to have it otherwise I would lower the F6B Install a custom seat, black it all out and do the exhaust.
 

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It's the foot peg position you're stuck with because of the engine configuration that I don't like. It's options are highway pegs and nothing in between.
I can't confirm this but some believe a hard bagged LT with a fairing is likely coming.

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I was leaning hard towards a Thunderbird before I bought my XR. I test rode two different ones and loved the ride both times, tons of power and handled great. The downside was it was still a little cramped for my 34" inseam and after adding shield, bags, bars it was going to cost thousands more than I paid for my XR.
 

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I have to ask... why is a gear position indicator so important?
LOL... I often wonder that too!

About the only time I ever look at mine is when I'm stopped ... am I starting off in 1st or 2nd...?

When I had the Wing, I'd often start off in 2nd (not on purpose), and it didn't make much difference other than you didn't have to shift as soon.
 

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LOL... I often wonder that too!
I only owned one bike that had one and I never looked at it. On this bike there's a green "OD" light that comes on in 6th gear (you can't see it in sunlight) but I don't pay much attention to it... I only notice it because it's in the tach...
 

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Test rode both bikes Thursday
1st the LT:
This is a great attempt at designing a classic style leather bagged cruiser. It is the most comfortable I have ridden to date. The power is exceptional and the handling and breaking excellent. The seat is as custom as it gets and the best I have seen any MFG put out. Fit and finish is nice and this bike is a nice compliment to the style of a Road King Classic. The 1700 twin is all day powerful and the 5 speed trans is smooth. The only thing that I didn't care for was the rattle in the motor during acceleration
I 've heard about that rattle in the engine. Was it real noticable? How was the vibration/buzziness?

Also, I believe the Thunderbird is a six speed...
 

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Test rode both bikes Thursday
1st the LT:
This is a great attempt at designing a classic style leather bagged cruiser. It is the most comfortable I have ridden to date. The power is exceptional and the handling and breaking excellent. The seat is as custom as it gets and the best I have seen any MFG put out. Fit and finish is nice and this bike is a nice compliment to the style of a Road King Classic. The 1700 twin is all day powerful and the 5 speed trans is smooth. The only thing that I didn't care for was the rattle in the motor during acceleration, The lack of a gear shift indicator, the flimsy Honda like leather bags although large and spoke wheels although there were WW radials mounted.

F6B
If you have never ridden a Gold wing like myself then I would try the F6B first. This thing is a freaking rocket. What a motor! truly one of the best in the MC world. The last bike that made me smile like this was a Boss Hoss. Clutch engagement is touchy as is the brakes but you get used to it. One thing I couldn't get used to was the foot position using the pegs. The chopped windshield has got to go. My head got plowed. The fairing otherwise is the best in the biz. I felt no wind below my neck LOL. The stereo was decent using component style speakers and I could hear it clean in the wind at 70 mph. The seating position also takes getting used to but I could have ridden this bike all day. Speaking of all day riding the bags are adequate at best but a backrest and luggage rack with a tour bag is all you need.

Only a 5 speed tranny and the lack of a shift indicator was disappointing. The lack of cruise control as we all know kind of added to the WTF factor. Otherwise put a good after market shield on it and a set of forward pegs and have a freaking blast! I would have one of these. I want to ride the Valkyrie next.
Funny you should mention it:

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/2014-triumph-thunderbird-commander-thunderbird-lt-first-ride.html
 

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I have to ask... why is a gear position indicator so important?
I find it useful on roads with intermittent curves. When I see one arrive, I may be in 4th, 5th, or 6th and not knowing nor caring which while droning down a straight road. Based on the curvature of the upcoming corner, I may want to engine brake into it in 2nd or 3rd. The problem with Vic's implementation is that it goes blank with the clutch pulled in so you gotta be thinking ahead a bit.

Is it necessary, no. Is it useful, I think so.
 

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I 've heard about that rattle in the engine. Was it real noticable? How was the vibration/buzziness?

Also, I believe the Thunderbird is a six speed...
Maybe it's in the gearbox then. I never noticed any rattle from the Thunderbird, but its engine, while more powerful, had less pleasing feedback to my paws and backside than do our powerplants.
 

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I find it useful on roads with intermittent curves. When I see one arrive, I may be in 4th, 5th, or 6th and not knowing nor caring which while droning down a straight road. Based on the curvature of the upcoming corner, I may want to engine brake into it in 2nd or 3rd.
Ummm... it's not like you can shift from 5th to 2nd without going one at a time through 4th and then 3rd.

Maybe it's my skewed perspective from having so much torque, but there's little need to row through the gears much.

I've had people ask me "What gear were you in through that section" and I say "the appropriate one".
 

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Ummm... it's not like you can shift from 5th to 2nd without going one at a time through 4th and then 3rd.
On super twisty roads, I'll just put it in 3rd and call it a day, but when approaching from a long straight, I may want to drop it down a hair more. When revs are matched, the engine braking doesn't take full effect right away and sometimes this can all happen kinda suddenly. I suppose a pilot can see the ground and go without an altimeter too, but I'll take more info than less and disregard it as I please.

Maybe it's my skewed perspective from having so much torque, but there's little need to row through the gears much.
For those of us without, we have gears. :D
 

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I have to ask... why is a gear position indicator so important?
Its not important HC. I'm just describing what is and what isn't. Some folks would expect these extras at these price points. I don't even know if the Goldwing has an indicator. I have never had one till my last 2 bagger/Tourer's and I have to say that I did look at it. Getting old n lazy I guess. Cruise control is always nice on a long distance touring bike though.
 

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I 've heard about that rattle in the engine. Was it real noticable? How was the vibration/buzziness?

Also, I believe the Thunderbird is a six speed...
I never really felt the buzziness but the rattle was disturbing to me. The bike is smooth and very plush. It really exhibited no vibration.

cant tell you about the 6th gear. It didn't have a gear/shift indicator on it. :ltr:

I rode around town so I have to say 5 speed. According to my road capt it was only a 5 speed.
 

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Ya know, cruise is really nice... and an accurate fuel gauge would be nice. From what I hear the cross bike lights up the low fuel light when you have 100 miles left...
 
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