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I think the operative word is "new" in that line. It may be extended if the technology isn't there by then. Gas and diesel powered vehicles will likely still be on the road for another 50 years or more. Off road and boony vehicles may still be gas.

I'm starting to see more and more e-cars on the road and the hybrids like the Volt.

I seriously doubt I will see that date but a lot of our younger members will.
 

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Maybe there will be less weather induced Terrorism because of this ?:crzy: IE; less alleged Global warming ?:rolleyes:
 

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35 years ago not many could have forecast what we are seeing in our world today. I never believe what the politicians or special interest groups come up with that they don't have to answer for but still, it helps to have some targets. Hopefully many of us here will be around to see if the goals get reached. (Scientist say that the first person to live to 150 years old is already alive and I plan on that being me.:grin)

The environment is a lot like us. It takes a lot more time and effort to get back in shape than it did to get in the abused state. Hopefully it'll be a better place by then.
 

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From what I understand (from old Popular Mechanics articles) an electric vehicle costs so much to produce and maintain that it won't pay for itself in fuel savings for years. Many people don't keep cars long enough to get a return on their investment anyway. Kind of a moot point.
But then again, I'm just an idiot.:eek
 

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That article is very high level and vague. They don't really have a solution as to what will replace today's "gas-powered" vehicles. I only see mention of current sales of electric cars...whooptee dooo!

I find it funny that you never hear about the amount emissions/pollution created by the manufacturing of batteries needed for the electric cars...and what about when these batteries are spent?
 

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By 2050.... can you say, "flux capacitor"?

G'day,

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I live in a city, county and state that is run by anti car, anti fossil fuel liberals. Funds are diverted from building and maintaining much needed roads to mass transit projects that will never pencil out. Everything is being done to increase traffic jams. Schools teach fossil fuels and hydro power bad; wind and solar good. So those "good" programs get huge subsidies, while the "bad" get taxed or axed. The Oregon legislature recently passed a "low carbon fuels" bill that is a cap and trade carbon tax scheme in wolves clothing. Our bi-sexual, lib governor has put off implementing it because she's up for re-election in November 2016 and there are enough uninformed metrosexuals in urban Oregon to do that. Then she'll put that bill to work with the result being an increase of $1 to $2 a gallon at the pump. And the fuel will have almost enough volatility to run an engine. Sure glad I'm in my dessert years, cuz you young 'uns are in for a world of hurt the way things are going. Can you say E15?
 

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This is "NOT" your fathers America .
 

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This is "NOT" your fathers America .
Hell...it's now even MY America. Trump is reminding us what my America was and could be and look what he gets for that.
 

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I live in a city, county and state that is run by anti car, anti fossil fuel liberals. Funds are diverted from building and maintaining much needed roads to mass transit projects that will never pencil out. Everything is being done to increase traffic jams. Schools teach fossil fuels and hydro power bad; wind and solar good. So those "good" programs get huge subsidies, while the "bad" get taxed or axed. The Oregon legislature recently passed a "low carbon fuels" bill that is a cap and trade carbon tax scheme in wolves clothing. Our bi-sexual, lib governor has put off implementing it because she's up for re-election in November 2016 and there are enough uninformed metrosexuals in urban Oregon to do that. Then she'll put that bill to work with the result being an increase of $1 to $2 a gallon at the pump. And the fuel will have almost enough volatility to run an engine. Sure glad I'm in my dessert years, cuz you young 'uns are in for a world of hurt the way things are going. Can you say E15?
Sooner or later one has to pay the piper.
 

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Hell...it's now even MY America. Trump is reminding us what my America was and could be and look what he gets for that.
Trump is a pompous, arrogant, self aggrandizing lousy business man.

His worth is estimated to be somewhere around 2.9 billion. Yes Billion with a B. But consider this; he inherited his money, reported to be around 40 million, from his father when his father passed away. His father was a true Real Estate developer and made his money in real estate in New York. Sounds good right? But look at this; had he simply invested his money in the S&P 500 and just sat around doing nothing = no input, just letting his money work, he would now be worth 8 Billion. Something wrong with that picture. Not too mention he is a racist xenophobe. But what do I know I'm just a poor shlub making ends meet. This isn't me saying this, this was reported by Bloomberg.
 

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Sooner or later one has to pay the piper.
We are paying for ineffective feel-good programs. Note that they're teaching hydro power is bad. That's cuz if it was included with the other "renewables" the NW would have met that goal and there'd be no subsidies for the wind and solar we do not need here. Because of hydro, we have some of the cheapest electricity in the nation. Its all about agendas Dan.
 

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For what Dan , affordable gas and some smooth roads ? We are going down the tubes here in America .....:crying
Affordable gas? There is no such thing. What we have now is propped up prices= low dollar costs at the pumps while the petrol conglomerates rape our planet, reap billions on profits and pay nothing in taxes and drain our society. Affordable gas? I don't think so.

Our grandchildren and great grandchildren will be paying the price.
 

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Affordable gas? There is no such thing. What we have now is propped up prices= low dollar costs at the pumps while the petrol conglomerates rape our planet, reap billions on profits and pay nothing in taxes and drain our society. Affordable gas? I don't think so.

Our grandchildren and great grandchildren will be paying the price.
You were smart enough to buy a Victory, but apparently, your intelligence stopped there. Sad.
 
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