Mehhh, I dunno. I'm on my 4th Vic and I still consider them superior to Harleys. Being a harsh critic, I can't find anything I would change on my Victory's, while I've found numerous design flaws on my Harleys. The only thing I would improve on Vics is to rubber-mount the engine. I think you'd still have some "Engine feel", but broader appeal. I would love to see the brand come back.