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I got on my 06 Hammer this morning and rode to work and noticed that my front and back turn signals do not work, nor does the instrument cluster lights with the exception of the bright light indicator. So no neutral indicator, nor oil light etc. I haven't checked any fuses yet but it would seem to me to probably be something greater than that such as a module of some sort. The turning lights are stock all around. The head light and brake light works fine and as stated above the instrument cluster light for the bright light works. Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.:confused:
 

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after the fuses put a wrench on battery terminals and see if there tight.

What was the last thing you did to bike?

Pull headlight and look for shorted out wire
 

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Quick scan of the wiring diagram tells me that all those things are on a single fuse as I would have suspected. Check your fuses.
Yeah, quoting from memory here, I believe the horn is on the same fuse as well. 99% fuse is blown - 1% all other scenarios.
 

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Well my friends you hit it on the spot. After taking it to a motorcycle dealer for a look at, they pulled the fuse box and took out a fuse and declared that it wasn't the fuses. So I made an appointment for Monday to have it looked at at $87.00 an hour which is not a bad price I suppose if you are able to diagnosis and fix the problem. However, after coming home and opening this page, I see the unanimous advice of you, my brothers, that it probably is a fuse given the various things that did not work including he horn, I take a look at it myself and what do I see????????? A 15 amp fuse, one not pulled by the tech at the shop and it is burned out and obviously so. I go down to my local NAPA parts and buy several fuses to keep with me, come home, replace it and all is well. I am not the greatest mechanic and try to avoid doing much mechanical work so as not to make the thing worse, BUT as has so frequently been stated in this forum, getting a good shop seems impossible. Granted, I did not give the local VIC shop a shot at it, but what the hell, who can you trust? I am now thinking that I should do my own oil changes as well. The local VIC shop charges a ton for it in labor but it seems fairly easy to do and as a kid I always changed my cars oil. Anyway, thank you fellows. This is an extremely useful forum for a guy like me and I owe it to guys like you.cheers
 

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If you have changed oil on a car at home you will find the Vic much easier. No need for the jack stands or the creeper, just walk up to it put your catch basin under it and pull the drain plug.
 

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There was a time that all "major" work I needed to do was done by a shop. Granted I know a very good one that I absolutely trust to work on my stuff. But what I finally realized was that the cost of screwing up the job, then buying the parts to redo it was almost always the same or less than having a shop do it for me. Would rather pay the same amount to screw it up myself and learn something in the process so next time I can do it cheaper. At this point I have done absolutely everything other than split the cases on a motorcycle. And I'll be doing that at some point in the near future as I'm getting close to finally starting my CB450 restomod project.
 

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Well my friends you hit it on the spot. After taking it to a motorcycle dealer for a look at, they pulled the fuse box and took out a fuse and declared that it wasn't the fuses. So I made an appointment for Monday to have it looked at at $87.00 an hour which is not a bad price I suppose if you are able to diagnosis and fix the problem. However, after coming home and opening this page, I see the unanimous advice of you, my brothers, that it probably is a fuse given the various things that did not work including he horn, I take a look at it myself and what do I see????????? A 15 amp fuse, one not pulled by the tech at the shop and it is burned out and obviously so. I go down to my local NAPA parts and buy several fuses to keep with me, come home, replace it and all is well. I am not the greatest mechanic and try to avoid doing much mechanical work so as not to make the thing worse, BUT as has so frequently been stated in this forum, getting a good shop seems impossible. Granted, I did not give the local VIC shop a shot at it, but what the hell, who can you trust? I am now thinking that I should do my own oil changes as well. The local VIC shop charges a ton for it in labor but it seems fairly easy to do and as a kid I always changed my cars oil. Anyway, thank you fellows. This is an extremely useful forum for a guy like me and I owe it to guys like you.cheers
You have to wonder -- at least, I do -- why the fuse blew in the first place. I mean, I suppose a fuse can get flaky all by itself, nothing's perfect. That said, I've never seen a fuse blow without something's being screwed up. I've occasionally caused, e.g., cutting through a live wire and a ground at the same time, etc., in doing farkles. Or maybe a wire is getting frayed here, or crushed by the seat, or something.

Don't you folks think that the OP should be concerned here?
 

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You have to wonder -- at least, I do -- why the fuse blew in the first place. I mean, I suppose a fuse can get flaky all by itself, nothing's perfect. That said, I've never seen a fuse blow without something's being screwed up. I've occasionally caused, e.g., cutting through a live wire and a ground at the same time, etc., in doing farkles. Or maybe a wire is getting frayed here, or crushed by the seat, or something.

Don't you folks think that the OP should be concerned here?
Wiser words than you might realize, wspollack. The fuse blew again. I checked the wires as best I could. Had a loose ground wire to the battery but after tightening it, the fuse still blows. Nothing else a problem with the bike's electronics, though it might be my imagination but the bike seems to sputter and not run as smoothly. It clearly is something that is connected to the turn signals, the horn and the console lights except for the bright light indicator on the console that still works. SOOOOO, unless someone has an idea for a less than technically talented fellow like me, to the shop it will have to go and only GOD knows what will happen there after, other than no doubt a large sucking noise coming out of my bank account. I did not look at the wires in the head light housing. No quite sure how to get the housing apart. But as I stated earlier, there is nothing but stock lights on the bike and nothing was done when I last parked it before all the trouble began. :confused:
 

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You have to wonder -- at least, I do -- why the fuse blew in the first place. I mean, I suppose a fuse can get flaky all by itself, nothing's perfect. That said, I've never seen a fuse blow without something's being screwed up. I've occasionally caused, e.g., cutting through a live wire and a ground at the same time, etc., in doing farkles. Or maybe a wire is getting frayed here, or crushed by the seat, or something.

Don't you folks think that the OP should be concerned here?
Well, as an XCT owner, I don't know beans about a Hammer (except that I rode one, at Americade, a few years back). This is just a guess, or a suggestion, etc. -- nothing to do with understanding the Hammer's electrical system -- but is there a wire bundle that goes over the rear fender, under the seat? If so, could you take a look, to see whether it might be crushed in some way? I mention this because crushed wires under a seat are not unheard of with bikes, and also because you mentioned the rear signals (which might mean that juice is not getting all the way to the back of the bike).
 

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Well, as an XCT owner, I don't know beans about a Hammer (except that I rode one, at Americade, a few years back). This is just a guess, or a suggestion, etc. -- nothing to do with understanding the Hammer's electrical system -- but is there a wire bundle that goes over the rear fender, under the seat? If so, could you take a look, to see whether it might be crushed in some way? I mention this because crushed wires under a seat are not unheard of with bikes, and also because you mentioned the rear signals (which might mean that juice is not getting all the way to the back of the bike).
It is all the turn signals and not just the rear. My concern is that it isn't a crushed wire but a module or switch and I understand the auto cancelling module/switch can cause what I am experiencing. I have been told as well that is about $300.00 for just the module. I have taken the seat off as last year I installed a VIC touring seat that I used maybe twice and since have had the stock seat back on. I suppose I could have drilled near enough to a wire that it is just now, a year later, causing a short. Anyway, I will check that out. I did look under the rear fender and felt around and the wires seemed to be in place that were going into the rear turn signals. Mystery continues...
 

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The fact that it worked for a while, then blew again strongly points to an intermittent short somewhere, rather than a blown module. It seems if the some component had failed, it would blow immediately. I think it is unlikely to be hidden withing the major harness trunks. Rather more likely to be where the wires branch off to the various devices on the circuit...signals, horn etc. If you have bulbs rather than LED turn signals, check the sockets for corrosion. Good luck...
 

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Before you panic about expensive parts and labor you need to do some diagnostics. WHEN did the fuse pop again and WHAT were you doing at the time? Put a new fuse in and turn your signals on, one side then the other. Does it pop for one side? Both? Neither?

Flip your headlights to hi or hit your horn, do either cause the fuse to pop? Narrow down the part of the circuit that's causing the problem before you start throwing money at it. If none of the systems on the circuit cause an immediate failure than the short is the result of vibration causing a frayed wire to ground out. That will take more digging to find but careful inspection of the wires should reveal one or more that were pinched or abraded at some point.
 

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Before you panic about expensive parts and labor you need to do some diagnostics. WHEN did the fuse pop again and WHAT were you doing at the time? Put a new fuse in and turn your signals on, one side then the other. Does it pop for one side? Both? Neither?

Flip your headlights to hi or hit your horn, do either cause the fuse to pop? Narrow down the part of the circuit that's causing the problem before you start throwing money at it. If none of the systems on the circuit cause an immediate failure than the short is the result of vibration causing a frayed wire to ground out. That will take more digging to find but careful inspection of the wires should reveal one or more that were pinched or abraded at some point.
Thanks for the insight and suggestions. I did that but now the fuse pops immediately so I have gone ahead and scheduled a visit to the Vic Shop here in town for them to deal it. I would prefer my time to be riding and not messing with it further. I have been riding my Hammer in the day but without running lights and an illuminated tail light even I know to come home before it gets dark. I am quite challenged or perhaps just impatient with working on the mechanics of the machine. I am an aware fellow of my many limitations and one such being working on my bike. I'll just spend a bit more time in the office, I suppose while she is being attended to. Thanks for suggestions though.
 

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Thanks for the insight and suggestions. I did that but now the fuse pops immediately so I have gone ahead and scheduled a visit to the Vic Shop here in town for them to deal it. I would prefer my time to be riding and not messing with it further. I have been riding my Hammer in the day but without running lights and an illuminated tail light even I know to come home before it gets dark. I am quite challenged or perhaps just impatient with working on the mechanics of the machine. I am an aware fellow of my many limitations and one such being working on my bike. I'll just spend a bit more time in the office, I suppose while she is being attended to. Thanks for suggestions though.
Fair enough. Knowing your limitations makes you a smarter man than a buddy of mine who has managed to get stranded multiple times, and blow up an engine due to his complete inability to turn a wrench. We all remind him daily to step away from the tools but he keeps trying and keeps breaking things.
 

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Fair enough. Knowing your limitations makes you a smarter man than a buddy of mine who has managed to get stranded multiple times, and blow up an engine due to his complete inability to turn a wrench. We all remind him daily to step away from the tools but he keeps trying and keeps breaking things.
LOL. Benefits of being an old but getting wiser guy, I suppose. But again thanks all for the efforts to help. Dropped her off today for work tomorrow and hopefully back to me for some awesome riding the next day. I love my bike and what small pleasures if gives me. You all know what I mean. A quick, simple and easy joy. Everyone stay safe, my brothers.cheers
 
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