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Greetings, all! After owning several HDs and finally getting tired of the arrogance and unbridled incompetence of the dealers, the service departments and the HD home office, a riding buddy of mine finally wised-up and took delivery of his new CC. As I said he would, he loves it. He mentioned two issues, though, and asked if I might help him sort them out. The first is the fact that he seems to be having trouble with missed shifts while using the new-style heel-toe shifter. Seems that, for the sake of style, Victory cut the size of the rear pedal pad to about half of its earlier size, and his big, floppy feet apparently miss the rather miniscule pad on the up-shifts. He questions whether or not the older-style heel-toe lever (with its larger pads) will fit on the new bike. Anyone make this mod? The second is a bit more troublesome to me. While riding the bike, and especially at, say, a stoplight, he finds the smell of fuel almost overwhelming. I rode his bike, and I have to agree. Unfortunately, his calls to the dealer are answered with a blow-off response like "They all do that" or "The tank vents out through the gas cap, so get used to it." My understanding of FI systems and environmental issues makes me think that this is BS, and that, because the system is essentially closed, there should be No fuel smell, as the vapors are routed back into the intake plenum. So, what's the correct answer from members who may have experienced this, or who have some technical expertise in this area? Thanks for your help.

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I have a XC and haven't had any shifting issues at all. I personally can't stand heal toe shifters and took them off my HDs as soon as I got them home, so I can't really answer that question. As far as gas smell I've had none with the XC. I really love the bike though, I've only had it 22 daysand I've got 1800 miles on it. After a weekend on the RG Ididn't want to see it again until the next weekend, not so with the Victory.
 

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Greetings, all! After owning several HDs and finally getting tired of the arrogance and unbridled incompetence of the dealers, the service departments and the HD home office, a riding buddy of mine finally wised-up and took delivery of his new CC. As I said he would, he loves it. He mentioned two issues, though, and asked if I might help him sort them out. The first is the fact that he seems to be having trouble with missed shifts while using the new-style heel-toe shifter. Seems that, for the sake of style, Victory cut the size of the rear pedal pad to about half of its earlier size, and his big, floppy feet apparently miss the rather miniscule pad on the up-shifts. He questions whether or not the older-style heel-toe lever (with its larger pads) will fit on the new bike. Anyone make this mod? The second is a bit more troublesome to me. While riding the bike, and especially at, say, a stoplight, he finds the smell of fuel almost overwhelming. I rode his bike, and I have to agree. Unfortunately, his calls to the dealer are answered with a blow-off response like "They all do that" or "The tank vents out through the gas cap, so get used to it." My understanding of FI systems and environmental issues makes me think that this is BS, and that, because the system is essentially closed, there should be No fuel smell, as the vapors are routed back into the intake plenum. So, what's the correct answer from members who may have experienced this, or who have some technical expertise in this area? Thanks for your help.

DW
you can change out the heel/toe with aftermarket..as far as fuel smell...did he overflow it when he filled it...? :crzy:
 

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I have been getting this gas smell as well when first starting off for a ride. The tank does not need to be any where near full
 

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Maybe you have a bad cap get the dealer to trade with you.
There should be no smell
 

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Kuryakin and Arlen Ness both have shifter pegs that are longer that fit.

I get the gas smell from time to time and the tank could be full or near empty. Doesn't seem to be any real ryhme or reason to it. I did notice by making sure the cap is all the way closed after pulling the key out seems to have helped keep it to only happening occasionally. There are over flow and vent lines under the tank. I don't know if there's a vent in the cap to allow air in as the tank empties as well. Maybe. It's hard to see but there's a small rubber tube-like thing under the cap that looks like it makes a seal.

Also Kewlmetal makes a screw on cap that might get rid of the issue altogether.
 

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I have the heel shifter on my 2011 XC and though it did take some getting used to, I now like it a lot. I've always had heel / toe shifters on my Harleys and the way I've learned to use the Vic shifter is a little different.

On the Harley, I use the back of the bottom of my heel to shift up. But on the Vic, I use the inside (right) edge of the heel to make my up-shifts.

Like I said, it took a little getting use to, but now I don't even think about it; it just comes naturally. I'm sure that, in time, your friend would find the same.
 

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The above post reminded me of having to re-learn how to ride the XC compared to the HD's I've had. They are different; not bad or anything. Just different using the throttle and it takes a bit to get used to it. In no time it will all be second nature. These bikes, for instance, don't like to be blipped. The computer can see that as a runaway engine rpm and shut the bike off. Downshifting is different as well. Gotta be careful to downshift while coming to a stop and time it with the speed of the bike. The HD trans is more forgiving in that respect.
 

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I get a raw gas smell from my Cross Country, at times it is pretty strong. It does not seem to matter if the tank is full or not. A 05 Kingpin that the wife had a gas smell, turns out that the fuel lines were not proper material, as I remember I think there was a recall on that bike.
 

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I have 2010 Cross Country and occasionally I get a fuel smell from it on warm days when sits out in the sun. It even goes so far as to leave a couple drops of fuel from what appears to be a vent hose near the rear tire. I thought there was a thread somewhere about on this forum or another.
 

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Ok. Took a 130 mile ride today and only had the gas smell come on when I got on the throttle.

This is definitely not a gas cap issue that I currently have. It has something to do with the throttle/throttle body and raw gas escaping into the atmosphere when I grab a hand full of throttle or just blip it hard.

I need to have a couple of things done at the dealership and will be addressing this with them to see what they and Ma Vic can come up with.

I suspect a leak somewhere in the throttle body or a back flow up through the air filter. Either way this definitely needs to be addressed and taken care of. It really isn't ride-able the way it is right now in the long term.

Ya...I'm bummed and kinda pissed but I'm sure this can be resolved.

I'll post what I find but just in case I forget and someone else has this same issue; please PM me and link back to this thread so I can post the results.

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