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Happy Thanksgiving!

I have been very confused why my so called 2012 Victory Vegas 8 Ball Motorcycle specs don't match the specs on other 2012 Victory Vegas 8 Ball Specs provided by Victory Motorcycles Home Web-page (I bought the bike new). But it does match the specs of a 2011 Victory Vegas 8 Ball Motorcycle.

My 2012 Vegas 8 Balls has the tires/Rims of a 2011 Vegas 8 Ball and I'm guessing the same goes with the suspension.
According to Victory Website
2012 Victory Vegas 8-Ball Motorcycle

2011 Victory Vegas 8 Ball
Front Tire Spec: 90/90 21 Rim 21 X 2.15 in
Rear Tire Specs: 180 55-B18 Rim 18 X 5.5 in

2012 Victor Vegas 8 Ball
Front Tire Spec: 130/70R18 Rim 18 X 3.0 in
Rear Tire Spec: 180/60R16 Rim 16 X 5.0 in

These tires sizes/rims are significantly different between the 2011-2012 and not interchangeable.

My motorcycle has the 2011 tires/rims sizes and could not fit the manufacture 2012 tires/ rims sizes. (I had 2 professional motorcycle shop confirm this.)

Also, the suspension of the 2012 and 2011 are significantly different, plus a few more manufacturing differences. I will have a professional shop diagnose these differences.

One last piece of evidence that worries me. The sticker on my motorcycle front lower bar. It reads the same tires/rims specs for a 2011 Victory Vegas Motorcycle. Also the ManuFactureDate (MFD) on the sticker says 9/2011. But was Registered as a 2012. I heard of Motorcycle Dealers and distributors playing with the numbers to make a motorcycle look a year newer, but really its the older model. I'm concerned this is what has happened here. According to the Victory Web-site I own a 2011, but it's registered as a 2012/sold as a 2012.

With this many discrepancies, it’s difficult to believe this motorcycle is an actual 2012.

Anybody else dealt with this or have an explanation?

Thanks for any help,
Dan
 

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Maybe you bought a Chinese knock off?:grin
 

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This is an odd one. First thing I'd do is talk to the dealer I bought the bike from if that was the case. If not; find any dealer, by phone will do, and ask them what might have happened.

Don't have an attitude when you call. Call with the intention of doing research to find out what is going on so you know what is going on going forward.

If after calling several dealerships you can't get an answer; a call and a letter to Polaris is likely in order. Use a service that requires them to sign for the letter and keep that proof. If necessary get an attorney involved but of course this can get expensive if it goes farther than a simple letter.

Most importantly; please let us know what you find out so we too can know the answer to this mystery.
 

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This is an odd one. First thing I'd do is talk to the dealer I bought the bike from if that was the case. If not; find any dealer, by phone will do, and ask them what might have happened.

Don't have an attitude when you call. Call with the intention of doing research to find out what is going on so you know what is going on going forward.

If after calling several dealerships you can't get an answer; a call and a letter to Polaris is likely in order. Use a service that requires them to sign for the letter and keep that proof. If necessary get an attorney involved but of course this can get expensive if it goes farther than a simple letter.

Most importantly; please let us know what you find out so we too can know the answer to this mystery.
If he goes through all this, and finds the bike was misstamped, titled wrong etc, what would you expect the outcome of this knowledge to produce?
 

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You first.
I don't know, a free bike? 10 free bikes?
Automatic placement as the new CEO?
A million bucks?

Maybe they will just laugh and say that vehicles made in the end of one year can be stamped as sold as the next?

I have no idea.
That's why I asked.
 

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Maybe you should ask the OP. He is the person looking for answers to these questions.

If it were my bike I'd want to know the answers and what I expected would depend on those answers.
I guess I'm asking you since you mentioned possibly lawyering up.
 

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Hopefully Polaris would be forthcoming long before needing a lawyer. I included the lawyer bit just in case they weren't.

You're new here so you aren't privy to all the conversations previously had about Victory/Polaris stonewalling people on warranty issues we've had here and other forums. If you had known about them you would likely already know why an attorney when dealing with a stubborn company is sometimes needed. It sucks but that's the way it is. The problem is always the same though; companies have lawyers on their payroll. Individuals generally don't and can't afford what they can. Same goes with the government. They will always win in the long run by out spending the plaintiff and drawing a case out for years until the well is dry. The well is never dry at the company or government unless it's a company dealing with the government.
 

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Yes Bob, I am.
Sorry.
Seriously... out of all that information I posted; all you got out of it was my comment about you being new here? A simple statement of fact.

Hmmm.... Must be that leftist brain at work again.
 

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Seriously... out of all that information I posted; all you got out of it was my comment about you being new here? A simple statement of fact.

Hmmm.... Must be that leftist brain at work again.
No Bob. I read your info, and will attempt to retain it, and everything about the past that I don't yet know.
 

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No Bob. I read your info, and will attempt to retain it, and everything about the past that I don't yet know.
You have issues. I don't think we are going to get along very well.

It would be best if you just stopped asking me stupid questions in the future.
 

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A simple question asked, of you, after your suggestions and statements.
I got one coherent, somewhat condescending answer, and a smart assed one or two.
Try reading the thread back to yourself without inserting an assumed attitude.
 
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A simple question asked, of you, after your suggestions and statements.
I got one coherent, somewhat condescending answer, and a smart assed one or two.
Try reading the thread back to yourself without inserting an assumed attitude.
You've had a bad attitude from the minute you signed up to this forum. I've called you on it and would appreciate it if you would just leave me alone. I can put you on ignore but I like to leave that as a last resort.
 

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Hi @Danmcgrt what detailed information, very nice read, so did you call the dealer like @BBob suggestion? I do think that is the best way to go if you like to know where the bike came from and why the bike has different bits in it...

Interested in this outcome

Smile

Andre using TaPaTaLk
 

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Does the emissions data sticker say what model year the bike was made to? A bike built in 9/2011 could actually be either made to 2011 specs or 2012 specs. In either case, the emissions data decal should state the model year that particular bike was built as. But in any case, Polaris could have simply just used whatever parts they had on hand the day your bike was going down the assembly line. Maybe the 8 Ball version could have a higher likelihood of being 'non standard' only in that I thought part of the concept of the 8-Ball was a blacked budget model. But that's a guess on my part.

With the Octane, I've seen bikes come from Polaris in colors (lime green, yellow, blue, gloss pearl white) they were never offered in. There's even one Octane at Randy's Cycle in Marengo, IL that came in with ABS. ABS wasn't even an option on the 2017 Octane. Maybe they were going to either offer ABS on the 2018 Octane or make it standard on the 2018. In either case, ABS shouldn't 'officially' be on the 2017 Octane on the showroom floor at Randy's. But that Octane came out of the crate from Polaris with ABS installed.

Personally, I'd not hold out high hopes of Polaris giving much attention to your inquiry. They could, but from everything they've done with Victory since Jan 8, 2017 suggests to me they really want the entire line to simply disappear. For your sake, I hope I'm wrong and they give your inquiry the attention it deserves. But I'd certainly expect more attention from the dealer you bought the bike from. As has been posted, please report back what you find out.
 
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