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Ive read many posts on intake mods and if I recall, it seems to me people have mentioned 2 seperate air cleaners on the vision? A front and top. Serched a couple retail vendors and they seem to sell these 2 items, so I went and pulled up the 2011 owners manual to reference, and it only mentions changing the front filter. No talk about a top filter at all.
Can some of you Vision owners help me understand this a little better?

Went elsewhere for answers........you can delete this post......
 

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Under your radio is a metal plate you can replace with a Lloydz or Ness filter. Six bolts hold it in place. You have to pull your gauge bezel and then your dash there is one smal bolt inside the glove box.
They say you will pick up some power but they say you can hear it suck air. I can hear it suck air but its not that bad.
If you put the filter you don't need to do a flash or a fuel controler or any thing ells.
 

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Under your radio is a metal plate you can replace with a Lloydz or Ness filter. Six bolts hold it in place. You have to pull your gauge bezel and then your dash there is one smal bolt inside the glove box.
They say you will pick up some power but they say you can hear it suck air. I can hear it suck air but its not that bad.
If you put the filter you don't need to do a flash or a fuel controler or any thing ells.
Did you notice much of a performance change with it, or is it really worth the hassle? Speaking of hassle........xct gas tank has to be removed to change the air filter?? ........I would think since Victory performance is a major bragging right, the engineers would have come up with something a little more customer friendly.wac
 

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Try a goldwing

Did you notice much of a performance change with it, or is it really worth the hassle? Speaking of hassle........xct gas tank has to be removed to change the air filter?? ........I would think since Victory performance is a major bragging right, the engineers would have come up with something a little more customer friendly.wac
You should try to change one in an 1800 Goldwing. You have to remove the entire cowling and engine parts just to get to it. It would be nice to have the filter more accessible but they had to keep the clean lines.
 

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I have a 2008 Vision, I had a dyno run done and was 80hp, when I changed to the Level I exhaust I felt more seat of the pants power. The bike ran good but I wanted more sound. In shifting would bring the bike up to the fork stops. I than went to the LLoyds secondary air intake, More seat of the pants power, the bike would now lift the front wheel in 2nd and 3rd gears. I do not speed shift. The bike would not do that in stock condition. So to answer your question, yes you do get more power, they say 7/8 hp. I beleive them. With just mufflers and secondary air intake you can get at least 10/12 more hp. If you by Victory Mufflers and the LLoyds secondary intake you have spent about $700. That is cheap HP.

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I know this is a bit older thread but trying to livin up the Vision forum a bit. Lol. I just added Lloyd's 2nd intake filter, 1 hour task and 95 bucks with shipping. What an investment!!!!!! Agree with the pulling the wheel up, I broke traction by accident on test ride, caught me off guard. Lol. For exhaust I didn't want to make it as loud as my TC with level 1s so went With the FREE option drilling out the tips with 7 1/2 inch holes. Just the right amount of low end rumble and again a good seat of the pants improvement. Bike has a great sound rolling down the road yet I can slip in and out of neighborhood predawn without disturbing everyone too much. This combo will easily tie me over until i put cams, exhaust and controller or if I even do. It has plenty of giddy up now yet you know there is more ther. But that is why I kept my TC. Lol

Just wanted to update the thread and brag on the VV a bit.

Safe ridin all!

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When you look at the vision air intake you wounder how it would even run.
With the air intake behind the headlight how it the world does it get enough air.
Then you put in the top air filter to get more air but how does it get there.
Guess when you look at all the Vic models you have to wounder how any of them can run.
When you do open up there air ways they really come a live.
What ever you spend for improving the air intake is good money spent.
 

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I've got one coming from LLOYDZ too. Along with their programmer and adjustable intake. My question is about the front filter. Behind that is that 4 cone plastic insert. Is that really needed? It would seem to only restrict air.
 

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I've got one coming from LLOYDZ too. Along with their programmer and adjustable intake. My question is about the front filter. Behind that is that 4 cone plastic insert. Is that really needed? It would seem to only restrict air.
Killing time and updating some threads.. lol.... I think you got this answered on another forum that it should stay in unless you have upgraded to the TWIN air intake at which time it can be removed (this was performed by KevinX on another riders bike during upgrade to twin intake and cams) Thank you Gunslinger for the Q's which I have now included the updated info in the post! thumb up


Also, I am not sure where I posted the Ness vs Lloydz 2nd filter but according to Lloyd his design will allow for up to 60% more air flow over the Ness square 2nd filter. That was taken from a conversation a few weeks ago btwn VicBuilder and Lloyd after there had been discussion about the filters and their designs.

As for upgrading the front filter, after what I have read I do plan on installing the Vic performance K&N STYLE filter when my stock'er is due for replacement. I have plenty of filter cleaner and K&N oil thats for sure... Darn sales... lol...
 

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I search the web looking for test done on air filters and it was a waist of time. All propaganda.
For the price I think the stock front air filter gives you as much power and air flow as a so called performance one.
Price wise stock is cheaper and no down time cleaning like the performance one.
What we need is a way to get the coolest passable air into the system we can.
One trick on a vision is take off the top V panel to get more air in.
Jackpots an hammers the longer the tubes the better cold air you can get. X bikes your just out of luck for cold air.
 

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What we need is a way to get the coolest passable air into the system we can.


I am finding that cold air comes at a price on the 106. Seems the colder it gets, the worse the gas mileage. I was down to 36mpg on my last fill up :(
 

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I search the web looking for test done on air filters and it was a waist of time. All propaganda.
For the price I think the stock front air filter gives you as much power and air flow as a so called performance one.
Price wise stock is cheaper and no down time cleaning like the performance one.
What we need is a way to get the coolest passable air into the system we can.
One trick on a vision is take off the top V panel to get more air in.
Jackpots an hammers the longer the tubes the better cold air you can get. X bikes your just out of luck for cold air.
Without turning this thread into the cold condensed air = bigger bang thread, I would think the only way to get air any cooler in the VV intake would be to bring more air onto the frame from the intake to the TB's. Maybe seperate thread for that since we got a 4 day weekend coming up!

@Joker - I thought the same last year when my MPG went down on my TC and I found that in 20-30 degree ambient I was riding harder because it was running stronger... :D My loss in MPG was related to my wrist hehehe Sure was fun but not saying thats what you got.

Back to the topic though with regards to the front filter performance or stock, this is just my assumption and going to drill down on it when I have nothing to do. If the performance filter passes no more air than the stock filter then why did we ever change from stock to the K&N's on the V92 when doing the stage 1 flash and level 1 exhaust??? Theres got to be some flow data on both out there... :cool: Just my thinking if K&N style is better when using a single filter, I don't see how it can't improve even with the dual.

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Drilling exhaust?

I know this is a bit older thread but trying to livin up the Vision forum a bit. Lol. I just added Lloyd's 2nd intake filter, 1 hour task and 95 bucks with shipping. What an investment!!!!!! Agree with the pulling the wheel up, I broke traction by accident on test ride, caught me off guard. Lol. For exhaust I didn't want to make it as loud as my TC with level 1s so went With the FREE option drilling out the tips with 7 1/2 inch holes. Just the right amount of low end rumble and again a good seat of the pants improvement. Bike has a great sound rolling down the road yet I can slip in and out of neighborhood predawn without disturbing everyone too much. This combo will easily tie me over until i put cams, exhaust and controller or if I even do. It has plenty of giddy up now yet you know there is more ther. But that is why I kept my TC. Lol

Just wanted to update the thread and brag on the VV a bit.

Safe ridin all!

Tim
Ok, I've read a couple of places about "free" drilling of the baffles for some exhaust performance. How do you do it? Does someone have directions or pics or even a video? I'm pretty much a newbie, but since it's free, I'm game to give it a try. ALso, I think I'll be ordering the Lloyd's upper air filter. Once I've given that a shot, I'll see how everything sounds/works, and most likely, that'll be the extent of my upgrades. (but, reserving the right to change the exhaust just in case....)

Thanks for all your help....
 

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