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Hi, my name is Ruckster. I've been riding and building Harleys since the early 1970s. I worked for NASA for a lot of years, as a fabrication specialist. I've owned a bunch of Harleys, mostly touring bikes. I will keep three of them, and sell one to buy a Victory.

I am looking at the crossroads eightball, with the windshield. I've got a lot of orthopedic problems, including a very bad right hip. The Harleys are just getting too heavy. I also don't like what they're doing with the factory, and their products. This bike is lower and fits me well; I have a 38 inch inseam, I don't have short legs. But I still like that the center of gravity is lower, and the "feel of the weight" is lower currently.

I've been saying I'm going to buy a victory for five or six years now, and I never seem to get around to it. I know very little about them other than their supposedly reliability, the 106 motor appears to be a good choice. I do most of my own work, so I'm looking for a bike that I can work on myself. I tend to ride less than 400 miles a day, probably less than 200 anymore. But I tend to ride most every day, and like to go on longer rides a couple times a week. I want the windshield and the bags, that's why the crossroads eightball appeared to be the model for me.

Any information of any kind by people that own the crossroads eightball would be great. Any information on victories in general that I need to know about would be great too.

Thank you very much in advance, Ruckster
 

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All I can say is ride one. I have a Cross Country Tour, which is similar, except basically I have a front fairing, lowers, and a trunk. I came from a 2002 GoldWing and was going to get an Ultra Classic. Then I rode the XCT. It's longer, and much roomier. I think a Victory Cross bike would fit a 38" inseam a lot better than a Harley, but only you can determine that.

I've only got 8400 miles on mine so far, but it's very easy to work on. I've installed fuel controller, timing wheel (advances timing), and a few other doodads and goodies.

It's true: "Ride one, You'll own one." I did, and I do.
 

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Hi, my name is Ruckster. I've been riding and building Harleys since the early 1970s. I worked for NASA for a lot of years, as a fabrication specialist. I've owned a bunch of Harleys, mostly touring bikes. I will keep three of them, and sell one to buy a Victory.

I am looking at the crossroads eightball, with the windshield. I've got a lot of orthopedic problems, including a very bad right hip. The Harleys are just getting too heavy. I also don't like what they're doing with the factory, and their products. This bike is lower and fits me well; I have a 38 inch inseam, I don't have short legs. But I still like that the center of gravity is lower, and the "feel of the weight" is lower currently.

I've been saying I'm going to buy a victory for five or six years now, and I never seem to get around to it. I know very little about them other than their supposedly reliability, the 106 motor appears to be a good choice. I do most of my own work, so I'm looking for a bike that I can work on myself. I tend to ride less than 400 miles a day, probably less than 200 anymore. But I tend to ride most every day, and like to go on longer rides a couple times a week. I want the windshield and the bags, that's why the crossroads eightball appeared to be the model for me.

Any information of any kind by people that own the crossroads eightball would be great. Any information on victories in general that I need to know about would be great too.

Thank you very much in advance, Ruckster
You may have to spend a little time finding a windshield that blows the wind around you to your liking. Other than that, the Cross Roads is a fantastic bike. I bet you'll be pleased with your decision.
 

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Ruckster--I feel your pain, so if you are sitting on your wallet, take it out, put it in a jacket pocket and never sit on it again. More guys screw up backs and hips with their wallet. Lecture over--smoke 'em if you got 'em.
I've been riding since 1952 and have disliked cruisers all that time. Been touring on first generation Yamaha Ventures since they came out in 1983 with lots of two-up riding; about 200,000 miles worth. So passenger comfort is a requisite with me.
Got hit with the Big C a while back, came out of it OK, but not as strong and the Venture became too intimidating. If I was to continue riding, I needed a lower seat height and CG. I swallowed my pride, held my nose and commenced to search for a bagger cruiser I could tolerate. Tough assignment.
That was the summer of 2009 and every cruiser I considered either had a passenger seat from hell, little suspension travel, poor lean angle or all three, so I hung it up when the riding season ended. During the winter, I saw ads for the new Cross bikes in the mags and the first thing I noted was a passenger seat an adult would be comfortable sitting on for a long ride. I went on line and checked out the fantastic specs and the forum folk were posting about comfort and handling, but no mechanical problems. A test ride on twisty back roads made a believer outa me. I ordered a red XR that is now 4 years old and has 16K miles and still makes me smile whether I'm on it or standing near it. Victory made a cruiser that a cruiser hater can love and so will anyone who tries one!
As a Vic owner, you will have much more riding time due to less maintenance time. You won't look back.
 

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Here are a few pluses:
Decent wind protection but you may need lowers to avoid the beard blast.
Most find the seat more comfortable than any OEM seat they've ever used.
The biggest saddlebags on the market.
Not quite as much torque in the low rpms as a HD but will outrun most stock HDs.
Feels lighter standing up than a RK.
Big floorboards for plenty of foot positions.
Great handling in the twisties and very good lean angle for a big bike.

Hopefully all that helps but I'll add that I tour a lot with a friend that has a 2011 Street Glide. We usually do 400 to 900 miles per day and get almost exactly the same mpg (about 13k moles last summer).
Check the Victory Motorcycles website for the demo schedule. If you demo a bike during demo days they almost always give a coupon for $1000 off or in store cash (depends on how the dealer reads it). Also if you are active duty or retired military they give you $1000 off a bike anytime.
 

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I absolutely love my 12 Crossroads! It's a good all around bike for long rides, short rides, and loves the twisties. The hard bags are spacious, lockable and waterproof. No bike is perfect, butI think the Cross roads is the best bang for your buck.
 

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Coming on here and asking if Victories are good bikes is like walking into a barber shop and asking if you need a hair cut. Or maybe asking a real estate broker if it is a good time to sell.

So here it comes: Yessir! Vics are great bikes!! Truly.

You might get a different response on the HD forums or M109 forums, but those guys are not as happy as we are.
 

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I came to this forum to get both sides of the story, if there is one. If someone hates a bike, they usually leave their mark. RICZ has the right idea, I think.
My local dealer is not the best... The first time I ride in, they could not be bothered to skip if I needed anything. Yesterday I had to find someone to ask about a crossroad, they had to find the floor guy.
I am on an ipad, the autocorrect kills me. Skip above should be "see if". I can't seem to edit in this browser.
So no one has had any problems with their crossroads eight ball? I guess I'm just looking for the rest of the story. Skeptic, yeah. NASA stands for never a straight answer.
I really do appreciate these posts tho. I'm starting to see I need to find a better dealer and take one out.
Thanks very much for the info, more to ponder.
Ruckster
 

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I came to this forum to get both sides of the story, if there is one. If someone hates a bike, they usually leave their mark. RICZ has the right idea, I think.
My local dealer is not the best... The first time I ride in, they could not be bothered to skip if I needed anything. Yesterday I had to find someone to ask about a crossroad, they had to find the floor guy.
I am on an ipad, the autocorrect kills me. Skip above should be "see if". I can't seem to edit in this browser.
So no one has had any problems with their crossroads eight ball? I guess I'm just looking for the rest of the story. Skeptic, yeah. NASA stands for never a straight answer.
I really do appreciate these posts tho. I'm starting to see I need to find a better dealer and take one out.
Thanks very much for the info, more to ponder.
Ruckster
If you're looking for someone who's had problems with the XR, you'll be looking for a long time.

Here's the thing with Victory: you don't really need the dealer. Sure, you have to buy the bike from them, but after that, you'll forget how to get to your local dealer. ;)
 

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Funny you posted this. I had a 2008 Road Glide and in need of my left hip being replaced. The heavy RG was starting to wear on me. I went to Harley to ask about the Heritage. I got treated like ****. I called around about Victory's since I have been slightly interested in them. 1 offered me 2k more than Harley, next one I called offered me 2k more than them. I went and road a Cross Country. It is now in my garage. It is lighter, center of gravity is lower. Overall a better fit for my crippled ass!! I still have to shift around a little but no where near what I was having to do. Getting on and off is not a circus act now!! I am very happy with it. Bought in January and do NOT have buyers remorse. I have since sold every single item of Harley crap I had. And like most guys, I had a ton of it!!!! Bought my exhaust with the proceeds!!!! I hope this has helped and good luck. PAIN SUCKS!!
 

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Ruckster....I think this is what you are searching for...
When I was signing on the dotted line for my XR, I was asked if I wanted the extended warranty. I replied that after lurking on the forums and finding no one having problems, I wouldn't be getting my money's worth out of it. He said, you're right, you'd just be throwing money at me. All we see Victorys in here for are accessories and routine maintenance. They haven't even seen mine for that. I'm 77 and do all my own work, including tire changing. Well, I remove and replace the wheels, shop mounts the tires.
 

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Don't have the hip problems sorry you do. I have had some thirty five different h-d's over the years and in 09 sold my new SG and bought a vision. i found there is more gear noise in a Vic 106 motor to bad they didn't use a primary chain. It starts all the time and there is 2% of the guys have a bad relay. One bolt changes the oil and one oil does every thing. Lots of guys use a WIX oil filter and some kinda oil. A lot of guys change the bars and not a lot to choose from. Motor has a lot of power and will give h-d's 103 a fit.
You do not say where you live but if I were you I would rent one a put a day ride on it and see what you think. If you make a deal get the dealer to throw in the 500 mile check up that will save you a couple hundred. The dealer for the most parts don't know much about what they sell and don't have the best techs. If you buy one and read the owners book you'll see Vic has some outrageous mileage schedules for replacing belts and fluids. From what I have seen the Vic motor is all most bullet prof. If you want a 100 horse motor it can be done for around 15 hindered and you know h-d coast double that.
I can ride my vision for a hole day and look forward to get back on it the next day. I never liked getting on my h-d two or three days in a row going cross country.
 

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I have a 2011 XR and it's just been a great bike. It's balanced so well, you'd never think it's close to 800 pounds. Way easier to lift off the kickstand anything else in its weight class that I threw a leg over...that included an RK Classic and a Vulcan Vaquero. If you were looking to win a "slowest lap" contest, this would be the scoot...seems to stay upright without much effort almost at a standing stop.

This bike will probably outhandle any bagger on the road. It's just amazing in the twisties.

Don't have much in the way of gripes, but I'll be honest with them. Mechanically, the drivetrain makes a bit of racket...but as I said, I have an '11 and they were the first year of the redesigned transmission. '12 and up are much quieter from what I've heard. Cosmetically, the coated aluminum parts like the risers and cam and derby covers don't seem to hold up...coating starts peeling. Might've been my fault, maybe I used the wrong type of cleaner or polish on them at some point, dunno.

It really is a great bike.
 

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I have never owned an HD and have only ridden 2. So I cannot compare there. I meet former HD riders all the time tell me that once they owned the Vic they would not go back. My brother is in a club and refuses to sit on my bike. I think he is afraid he will want one.

As far as hip and seats. I can give you some info on that. I have a hip replacement. I like to ride 200-400 mile days. I am a big guy at 6' and 290 lbs. The stock seat would sink right to the pan when I sat on it. I bought a Russell Day-Long saddle and I rode 730 miles in 1 day and I was fine. It is the width of that seat that makes the biggest difference. It takes a lot of pressure off your hips. The Vision has a much better stock seat.
The boards on my bike (XCT) let me stretch out a lot. Plenty of room to change positions. I have a 30" inseam. You can always get a highway peg for more leg room. I hope that info helps.
 

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Test riding tomorrow

I'm almost convinced. I will ride 2 hours to ride a cross country eight ball tomorrow. Just going for the ride, so to say. He also has one on the showroom floor. I really can't buy one till I sell the HD, so it won't be a sale tomorrow.
We live between AZ and Washington state, headed back to WA soon.
I appreciate what I've read here.
Post 2012 seems to be the noiseless years. Any other year specific issues to look for? Used would be cheaper, but...
Thanks again,
Ruckster
 

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Where in Washington do you live Ruckster? As a footnote to my post, when I discovered I needed a cruiser in order to continue riding, some recommended I look into H-D. I have rented many, mostly RKs and tourers for 2 up riding and never before experienced bikes that really did not like going around a curve. The lack of handling prowess even had my wife on edge. I say this to prepare you for a very different and gratifying riding experience.
 

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Ruckster,
How did the demo go?
 

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Well, I guess I'm convinced

We rode out early on a cool morning headed north. It's about a two and a half hour ride, no problems just a nice ride. Made it to the victory demo show they had a truck with all of the bikes available to ride. I rode three separate times on three different bikes. The one I am buying is a crossroads eightball. I also rode a cross country eightball. A classic country eight ball something but then they ride nice there, really cool fun. The one thing that is so foreign is the noise. The Harleys rumble and you have the noise from the pipes but the victory has gear noise it's inherent to the motor and the tranny and in the primary so it's just different. I really enjoyed the handling, and I really enjoyed the stability in the corners. Does twisties well.
It fit me exceptionally well. In the leg I had lots of room to move around and had no trouble hitting the brake or the shifter. I am going to get a heel shifter, I've done it that way for 30 years. The seat height was good to take the weight off the hips and put it on the knees so that was really good benefit. I was impressed with the seat, it was very comfortable, and the trail and the rake on the bike is amazing,
I ordered it with a windshield and A heel toe shifter and cruise control. The windshield keeps the wind off my face and my chest, puts too much pressure on my arms otherwise. I didn't like the Fairing its just a little too much for that bike. I know, styling thing I think. The cruise control I've never used except on my husbands Harley so that will be something to get used to.
They have to prep and do all the stuff with the bike and I did the deal in one place with the bikes actually at another place, so they have to go down to get the bike and then do whatever it is they do, and then they're going to deliver to me. I don't know how long it's going to take and I think I have the patience to wait, so hopefully in the next couple of week's I'll be riding a victory around the countryside. Were actually in the process of moving back to our other place, so we're trying to decide what to do with extra motorcycles and stuff like that.
Hope everyone has a good day tomorrow. Take care, Ruckster
 

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If you are going for a heel shifter check out the Kewlmetal heel shifter. I love the one I installed on my Vision. It is a lot easier to find with your heel than the one from Vic and it has a long enough lever arm to really be out of your way unless you want to use it.
 
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