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What Harley Owners think about Victory

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When I owned my HDs that was probably my least favorite forum. I preferred the V-twin forum and the shark tank. One thing I did notice about the thread you linked was that comments were all about appearances, not content. HD fanatics just don't like the way our bikes look, except the one guy who didn't like the AZ Victory series on you tube. 8 pages of "I think its ugly" before I gave up reading. I guess a garage queen must be pretty at all times regardless of other factors.
Run it may but shine it must.
 
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I have had a ID over there for a while now as a buddy of mine had a RG so I went ahead and posted a little something to give them some target practice...wac
 
#4 · (Edited)
Yea most the comments we are the red headed stepchild. Guess they don't like our taillights;). That's alright they don't have to like my bike. I pay the bills, what I like is all that matters.
 
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Mostly curious around here. A few have been crabby, but they probably are just that way. Most have lots of questions and compliments. Well, at least as long as I was around. LOL

I would be surprised if your thread lasted very long.

Cheers
 
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I've taken a lot of grief from a few close friends who ride HD since buying the Victory. The Harley Davidson marque has become a philosophy over the last couple of generations. A company that in the past has been mis-managed to the point of near extinction and has arisen from that to become what is perceived as a premier top tier manufacturer. The majority of those who ride HD really don't care what's inside nor how it works but revel in the fact that they are now able to afford one or at least get a bank to finance one for 72 easy payments.

Personally I've never been one to want to have what everybody else has. Although I quit going to Sturgis a decade ago I remember walking down the main drag the year that the 100th came out. I couldn't imagine coming out of a bar or a shop and trying to find which one was "mine".
 
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With all due respect....why do we care ? :p

If we for example drive a Ford...do we really care if the Chevy guys agree with our choice ?...obviously they don't....

Personally I do not need to justify my purchases with the approval of someone else...no matter what the item may be....jus-sayin'
 
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I read every post of the 8 pages on the HD forum ... Just as I suspected Victory gets no love from HD owners .... My only reply is , and no disrespect to my many HD owning buddies on THIS forum , But I am 46 , been riding since I was 16 , I have never owned a HD , never wanted an HD , I have never liked anything about HD , and compared to the looks of a Victory motorcycle , they look antiquated and clunky . If I was ever given one or won one in a contest , it would be up for sale in less then a nano second . Every one I ever knew that owned a HD , including my Father were complete hunks of crap , and shook like a dog shittin razor blades , and leaked oil all over the garage floor ... Lest I say , I will never own one .wac
 
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I rode 2 different HDs over a period of a bit over 3 years.

"shook like a dog shittin razor blades"
It shakes at idle at traffic lights but both bikes were as smooth when under way as my Vision.

"leaked oil all over the garage floor"
Not a drop from either of mine in those 3+ years.

I understand you are fond of Victory but please don't sit there spouting errors about how an HD really is like the guy from AZ Victory does on his videos. If you have never owned or ridden one how can you possibly know what they are like?

I traded my last HD for my Vision but I don't hate HD. I just prefer my Vision.
 
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Wow! just read some of that crap you decided to actually waste a thread on. What's the point? It's not winter time any more. Shouldn't we all be riding instead of trying to find **** to smear all over our beloved forum.

Really now, Who cares what a bunch of poor misguided soles think about Victory. Just imagine. Riding the same bike everyday that everyone else has. Imagine the same styling decade after decade. Imagine the money spent to make it different and to make it perform only to see another just like it at an event or in your neighbors garage. Imagine never mentioning another Harley/Victory hater thread ever again on this forum. Imagine that !! Please!! wac
 
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When I was younger (say, 80's and 90's), I wanted a Harley. Who didn't? They were bad-assed machines ridden by bad-assed folks.

They were interesting to ride. A friend's Night Train (not the V-Rod model) felt like it wanted to shake itself apart underneath me. Te full-dressers were a bit on the cramped side. And there are so many out there!

I went back and forth between an HD and the Vic, and we all now where I ended up. After riding a few HDs AGAIN recently, I know I made the right choice. For me.
 
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Last week i went with 3 victory's and 16 HD riding to another island and have a humungous lot of fun, and at the end a HD rider went and bought a Vic Vision of U$D 46,000 so i guess what country you are in people stick together as "riders" and not Victory or HD or Aprilia...... bla bla bla

let it be ???? :Dcheersthumb up:ltr:
 
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Well... they put a picture of the Vision up and say "Those Victory bikes are funny lookin'". It's like they don't know there are OTHER MODELS. Jackpot? Hammer? CrossRoads? Gunner? It's not like Victory ONLY makes Visions.

I mean, if it supports your position, you'll use it, even though it's easily refuted by putting up some pics like these.







 
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Well... they put up a picture of the Vision up and say "Those Victory bikes are funny lookin'". It's like they don't know there are OTHER MODELS. Jackpot? Hammer? CrossRoads? Gunner? It's not like Victory ONLY makes Visions.

I mean, if it supports your position, you'll use it, even though it's easily refuted by putting up some pics like these.







These bikes are sex! I'm sorry, I've always been an H-D fan but they build nothing any hotter than the above bikes.
 
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When I told one of my Harley buddies I was buying a Vic, he said "It's not the spaceship one, right?" *sigh*
 
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I belong to an organization with over 2000 members. Most of them ride Harleys. I have not once had a serious negative comment made about my bike by any of them I have ridden with. Some good natured teasing but I get worse about my bike having a radio than who made it. Guess it all depends on who you are around.
 
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Th first Victory I ever saw was a Vision and had no clue what it was at the time. I didn't care for the looks.

Once I figured out what it was, I went to the Victory website and discovered they make more than just "the spaceship" and fell in love with the Cross Roads and Cross Country. Years later I bought a new 2014 Cross Country and don't regret my decision in the least.

A lot of people think of the Vision when they think Victory, most are pleasantly surprised by the rest of the line up. Judging a bike company on a single model is like judging the entire Happy Days series on the Shark jumping episode.
 
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Anyway, I got done posting or reading on HD forums a lot of moons ago. It's a simple machine in its purest form and after awhile you have been there done that. Just no compelling reason to keep going back to the well.

At least with Vic I am on a journey of introduction. I will at some point find a beater and gut it to play with its innards.. I guess that's a bucket list item but at least I can get up in a Vic and see stuff I ain't seed before.

As far as Visions go, it's funny that they get such a bad rap from the self styled truebloods. Harley owners can roll out some iconic iron from practically any decade of the 20th century that will elicit oohs and aahs from the uninformed and the afficianado. There are some iconic motorcycles of the 21st century too but for sheer balls nothing compares to the Vision. I don't mean power balls, I mean cajones. You can't tell me that there weren't some sleepless nights filled with worry leading up to that unveiling. There were no incremental steps or five year plan on display. Here's this thing that you only saw in the comic books. It does everything that much more conservatively styled motorcycles do and does some of them better. Deal with it.

Amazing. Further, it's kind of the spinster aunt to the Cross series , at least in sales. So this icon is only the flagship in the hearts of the Victory faithful even though it continues to grow on people. I'm too much one of those old harley guys. I tried. I rode the Vision in various configurations and they tried to make me take them home but no, not to be. That doesn't mean that I don't see and understand the contribution The Vision made to Victory history and motorcycle history in the 21st century. That bike is going to be rolled out to oohs and aahs from the uninformed and the afficianados of the 22nd century. The lack of respect shown it by my compatriots in Harleyworld speaks volumes to the lack of depth of understanding they have for the world they claim to be the flamekeepers of.

OTOH, this hatred of all things Harley prevents some of my contemporaries here from getting that much closer to our own history. I have rebuilt WWII flatheads. I almost bought a panhead that was in the Police escort in Dealy Plaza when JFK took a bullet. I dealt with a man from whom I bought a motorcycle that he had owned since 1935... 1935. When he put that machine in my hands how much of his soul went with it? I had a Good Humor Servicar that rolled on the plank at Coney Island. Harley has in its ranks some damn fine Americans who are dying off. They are spending the last years of their lives going to antique meets and restoring the machines of their youths and telling incredible tales to anybody that has the sense to go and talk to them. Hard to do if you just plain hate harleys.
Mags is right about the oil. Old Harleys are not housebroken. Some of the oil that leaked out of those old bikes is still on the floor of my shop in New Hampshire. I wish it could talk.
 
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Mags is right about the oil. Old Harleys are not housebroken. Some of the oil that leaked out of those old bikes is still on the floor of my shop in New Hampshire. I wish it could talk.
If my garage floor could talk, it'd probably say to tell the fat guy with the big lungs to quit dropping **** on me and screaming about it. thumb up
 
#26 ·
Amen! Spoken from the heart, mind and soul.
 
#29 ·
Man that Orange / White bike is soooooo cool

Ok so do you guys think that the negative talk is mostly from HD to Victory or visa-verse 50/50 or not??

Be honest .... yes or no

if HD guys ride my JP they say that cornering is real fun and easy compared to HD with wide tires.... acceleration is smooth .... idle bike is not "shaking"

anyway I have looked at some of the HD and they look awesome and then we drink a cheers beer together.....
 
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The first Vision I ever saw was in Luckenbach Texas a number of years ago, it had a guard rooster walking around it and I thought that it was some kind of custom Star Trek ride or something. Last fall I had the opportunity to actually ride a Vision and I was quite impressed. Is the styling for me?? Nope, not a chance but it does its job very well and was the reason I test road a Cross Country this last February and took it home.

Sure wish I could find the picture of that guard rooster and the Vision, he looked like if any body dared to come close to that bike he'd tear them limb from limb.
 
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I'm actually surprised after 4yr's since the birth of the XC that many still say "that's a Victory"? "Wha'd they change"?

If Victory could re design the trunk on the vision I think it would help tone down the spaceship appeal. The trunk less bikes are actually nice looking and customizing them makes them real sharp. Those are the ones I have ridden. Love the Vision 8 ball.

As far as the comments on the HD forum? Well what do you expect? All they got is the Vision to pick on. We have their whole antiquated line of slow underpowered slug riding vibrating over chromed under laced cramped feeling poor handling lousy engineered high maintenance over priced F#%@ing! me too bikes to pick on. :D

See what these kind of threads do to people? :crzy:
 
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If Victory could re design the trunk on the vision I think it would help tone down the spaceship appeal. The trunk less bikes are actually nice looking and customizing them makes them real sharp. Those are the ones I have ridden. Love the Vision 8

See what these kind of threads do to people? :crzy:
About the only bikes I really lust after these days are
1- F6B
2-Vision 8 Ball
3-Triumph Thunderbird


If a Gunner fell in my yard I would keep it too. cheers
 
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We went riding together with all the HD and 3 Victory's took the RoRo ferry and spend the night on the beach hotel

So could you guys help looking for my bike???

:ltr:
 

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I test drove a Vision a few years ago because I thought it was so futuristic and not my taste. I "loved" the ride and handling. Now, the looks have grown on me and maybe because it is different. Also, I have spoken to a few that own them and each individual cannot say enough. I've told the little woman that could be my next one.
 
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