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Not an owner yet but got on the board to gather more information about the Victory products.

This post applies to those with full face helmets. I'm 5'10".

We spent several hours test riding near Dayton this past week (demo truck was there).

We ride with full face helmets and other protective gear.

One characteristic we value is being able to ride without ear plugs.

We found the Cross Country bikes have moderate wind noise in stock form.

We experimented with the stock mirror in different positions on a XCT with an aftermarket flip screen of similar height as the stock blade shield.

The wind noise was essentially absent with the stock mirrors rotated 180 degrees (turbulence could be felt coming around the mirrors in the standard position). Rotating the mirrors inward got them out of the wind stream coming around the bat-wing fairing.

This maneuver also decreased but did not eliminate buffeting on the standard XC (without lowers and top case but with the "blade" windscreen).

We were unable to test this maneuver on a XC with the aftermarket screen, but would predict a more significant decrease in wind noise.

We also rode the CR LE with a tall windscreen. This was our first test ride bike and we did not play with the mirrors. My earplugs were in. There was a marked decrease in wind noise/buffeting when the helmet opening in front of my chin was blocked with my left hand. This worked whether the helmet face shield was open in various positions or completely close. Thus good helmet air circulation could still be achieved. A full face helmet could be easily modified with a piece of open cell foam to block with opening in front of the chin.

We are hoping to test ride a XC with the aftermarket standard height flip windscreen (similar height as the blade screen) in the near future and see how mirror rotation works in this set up.

Should the latter be a success, we may purchase. Mods would include the aftermarket blade height flip screen and rotating/changing the mirrors. We would consider adjustable mirrors mounted on the lateral halves of the speaker cover grids. Some baffling may be needed within the speaker pods to direct the sound back towards the riders and away from the mirror mounts. This mod would only work if you don't end up looking at your hands on the handlebar grips but rather have a clear view to the sides and behind the bike.

The Victory Rep for the demo rides thought buffeting increases as you go from half shell to 3/4 helmet to full helmet. That has been my experience on other cruisers.
 

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I do not mean to be an a**hole when I say this, I really don't, but if you want no wind noise, and no buffeting, buy a new Lexus. You can look on this forum at all things listed under buffeting and wind noise, many people have tried many different things, just depends on what you want. This is a MOTORCYCLE, wind in your face, knees to the breeze...I dunno....just my 2 cents worth :confused:
 

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I do not mean to be an a**hole when I say this, I really don't, but if you want no wind noise, and no buffeting, buy a new Lexus. You can look on this forum at all things listed under buffeting and wind noise, many people have tried many different things, just depends on what you want. This is a MOTORCYCLE, wind in your face, knees to the breeze...I dunno....just my 2 cents worth :confused

If the post isn't pertinent to you don't read it. I found his post very informative.
 

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I commend you for wearing go down protection, clear up to a full face helmet, as do I. But not wearing ear protection is outright foolhardy. You are destined to be saying HUH a lot if you don't. If you don't know exactly how your ears work, talk to an audiologist. And while there, get a pair of custom fitted musicians' plugs - that's the best way to go. Foam plugs are better than nothing, but barely. The sounds of riding a motorcycle, and any other loud continual noises, WILL impair your hearing, no question about it. So get the plugs and enjoy the ride. And when the ride is over, you can enjoy conversation with friends and loved ones without saying HUH?
 

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I do not mean to be an a**hole when I say this, I really don't, but if you want no wind noise, and no buffeting, buy a new Lexus. You can look on this forum at all things listed under buffeting and wind noise, many people have tried many different things, just depends on what you want. This is a MOTORCYCLE, wind in your face, knees to the breeze...I dunno....just my 2 cents worth :confused

If the post isn't pertinent to you don't read it. I found his post very informative.
Wind and wind noise is part of the package for a cyclist, but buffeting is where many draw the line. I'm probably one of the few here that don't wear earplugs on my bike , but always do in one of my cars. (see my signature) With a built 427 and open sidepipes, it's a no-brainer.
 

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Bear,

Good on you for wearing riding armor, including a full face helmet. I have bee hit by cars twice and am thankful to have been wearing armor.

I ride a CR usually without the wind screen unless it's raining. I grew up without wind protection on any of the bikes i rode so I enjoy the feeling of the wind. I also ride without ear plugs in my helmet. I already suffer hearing loss though it is not from riding motorcycles. I also do not wear ear plugs because I use a Scala Rider G4 to listen to music and talk to my wife while riding.

As far as the buffeting there have been many posts on tis forum about people with the XC and XCT trying different wind screen to keep it to a minimum.

Good luck with the test rides. I hope you find the combination you enjoy riding with so you can keep the miles coming.
 

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I ride with a SHOEI QWEST most of the time because it is one of the quieter helmets. SHOEI recommends you ride with ear plugs. I ride with foam earplugs on long rides and can hear music from my speakers or even the Blinc speakers I intalled in my helmet if I so desire. When my wife rides with me we use a taller windscreen and SHOEI QWEST helmets with the SCALA rider 2 communication system. Works so well we can whisper to each other at 80 mph.
I have OEM fork deflectors for lower wind management.
By the way, I'm also 5'10".9,000 miles so far. Love the bike, no other changes planned.
 

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I ride without a windshield because I like the wind. However I also like to keep the noise to a minimum. So I ride with a fullface helmet with foam earplugs. I also use a Scala G4 and find it easy to hear. With less noise it is more relaxing to ride. I have heard that an apron around the bottom of your helmet will cut noise alot. Try it by shrugging your sholders up to your helmet while you ride. BTW I think that the damage to hearing is due to air pressure fluctuations & noise.
 

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I have an XCT with a Klockwerks Flare, and - as on prior bikes for the last 10 or 12 years - wear custom-molded ear plugs (except if I'm going to a store a mile or two away).

You can get these at bike rallies, gun shows, bike shows, etc., for around $50. They put some glop in your ear, you wait 15 minutes or so, and they pull it out and smooth out the edges and so forth. Not only will this preserve your hearing, but you'll finish long rides much more refreshed. It's the wind noise that'll get you, not the pipes.

My hearing's pretty shot; I wear custom molded hearing aids when not riding. I blame this on old age and Army firing ranges in the late 60s; no plugs then. Anyway, I want to preserve what's left.

I also switched from over-the-ear hearing protection - ya know, like you see at firing ranges, etc. - to the molded ear plugs when mowing the lawn and weed-whacking (two-stroke).

But it was interesting reading about playing with the mirror positioning. Never thought of that.
 

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We want clean, smooth air, not buffeting/wind slap

This is a MOTORCYCLE, wind in your face, knees to the breeze...I dunno....just my 2 cents worth :confused
We want clean, smooth air, not buffeting/wind slap.

It seems likely the XC with a low flip aftermarket screen and mirror adjustments will give us that.

I've done 8k miles in 2 weeks. Wind slap is tiring and limits enjoyment/endurance on long distance trips in my experience.

We also practice ATGATT. The XC allows conversion from hot weather riding to cool. Slap on soft lowers and a higher screen for cool weather riding. Then add heated grips, jackets, and/or seat for cold weather. I think this bike can do it all.

We may also consider the XCT and take the hard lowers off for hot weather. Then add snap on soft lowers for those cool morning hot day rides and the hard lowers for cold weather. The XCT may be better as some feel the engine guards on the XC are a source of buffeting as opposed to the round ones on the XCT.

If we get a black bike, we will add DIY white tape pin striping.

Thanks for your thoughts.
 

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But it was interesting reading about playing with the mirror positioning. Never thought of that.
Re-positioning the mirrors decreased wind noise without ear plugs to less than standard position with ear plugs.

Please note this was with a full face helmet and a rider height of 5'10".

Thanks for your thoughts.

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So get the plugs and enjoy the ride. And when the ride is over, you can enjoy conversation with friends and loved ones without saying HUH?
We currently use foam ear plugs as part of our standard gear.

For the best results with foam get the plugs just far enough into the canals to barely touch the ear drums. Maximum noise reduction and least discomfort. If you have narrow canals, they make a smaller size for women (pink).

You are right about the molded plugs being better.

Good thoughts,

Bear
 

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We currently use foam ear plugs as part of our standard gear.

For the best results with foam get the plugs just far enough into the canals to barely touch the ear drums. Maximum noise reduction and least discomfort. If you have narrow canals, they make a smaller size for women (pink).

You are right about the molded plugs being better.

Good thoughts,

Bear
Have you tried Musicians earplugs? I have been using them for a couple of months and they work pretty good lowering the noise but keeping the tone. $10 per pair and they are made well.
 

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We currently use foam ear plugs as part of our standard gear.

For the best results with foam get the plugs just far enough into the canals to barely touch the ear drums. Maximum noise reduction and least discomfort. If you have narrow canals, they make a smaller size for women (pink).

You are right about the molded plugs being better.

Good thoughts,

Bear
You are so right about the molded plugs. The problem with foam plugs is they never go in the same way twice, so the attenuation is different each time. Molded plugs don't have that problem.
Windscreen removes by simply loosening 4 screws. That's one of the reasons why I bought the XR instead of the XC.
Incidentally, the ear drums have nothing to do with hearing. Talk with an audiologist for the real skinny on hearing. :confused:
 
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