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Hi All, Bit of a strange problem started today. Normally I click the key, turn the fuel on, squeeze the clutch and fire up the bike. Today I go to start it after a short ride and nothing happens when I hit the starter button. I click it into neutral and it starts. This happened a few times. As I was coming home from work, the check engine light starts flashing. How can I check what is causing it? I tried searching the forum for 45 minutes and gave up.
Bike is a 2002 and has 45,000 miles on it.
 

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The not starting sounds like a switch issue , such as a neutral safety switch , I wouldn't be surprised if the two symptoms were NOT related , such as a coincidence .... See it all the time in automobiles ....
 

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It's an 02 V92TC, I had no idea these even had a neutral safety switch. I guess I can trace it back and check. Anyone know the procedure to find out what the check engine code is?
 

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Sounds like battery issues. Either connections or going down. Have you had it checked lately?
 

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Just tightened the positive cable, was a little loose. Fired it up, no "Ch Eng" but it still won't start in gear with the clutch in.

Just found my manual. Looks like I need to do some testing.


"Starter motor will not turn when the
transmission is in gear with the
clutch pulled in, but will turn when
the transmission is in neutral.
Clutch Safety Switch Circuit is not
functioning correctly.
Test 2C"

CLUTCH SWITCH CIRCUIT: Test 2C
The symptom of a faulty clutch switch circuit is:
S Starter motor will not operate when
transmission is in gear with the clutch lever
pulled in. Starter will turn when transmission
is in neutral.
NOTE: The clutch switchmakes an audible click at the
beginning of the clutch lever travel. This is a good
indication that the clutch switch is working but using an
ohmmeter is the best test. A faulty switch will set acode
in the ECM, but will not set a CH ENG light.
1. Place the transmission in neutral.
2. Remove left side cover.
3. Disconnect switch connector at starter relay
(carefully pull lock tab (A) down, and push
connector away from relay to diconnect.)
4. Set DMM to Ohms (��).
5. Connect red (+) lead ofDMMto the blue/yellow wire
(B) of starter relay wiring harness connector as
shown at right, using a test probe from Victory
Connector Test Kit PV 43526.
6. Connect DMM black lead to battery negative post.
7. Operate clutch lever while observingmeter display.
8. Pull in clutch lever. The meter should display
continuity to ground or very low resistance (less
than 1 ohm).
9. Release clutch lever, meter should display infinity
(O.L. on Fluket 73).
10. If clutch switch does not test as described inspect
clutch switch, clutch switch wiring or mounting of
switch to clutch lever for fault as described below.
11. Disconnect clutch switch wiring connector.
12. Connect ohmmeter across terminals of clutch
switch. Test for continuity when clutch lever is
pulled toward handlebar. Test for open circuit when
clutch lever is released.
13. If the clutch switch now operates correctly, the
wiring between this point and the previous test point
is at fault and must be corrected.
14. If the clutch switch still does not operate correctly,
inspect the mounting of the switch.
15. If the switch is mounted correctly and physically
operates but does not open and close electrically.
Replace the clutch switch and test
 

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I actually checked it last night. I have a lot of free play in my clutch lever, to the point where that switch hasn't been engaged in forever. I did see the name and model number of the switch and it looks like I can get it from the manufacturer for arout $23.
 

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Where did you find it for $23? I need a switch too, called the dealer, they want $65 for that little thing!
 

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Hi All, Bit of a strange problem started today. Normally I click the key, turn the fuel on, squeeze the clutch and fire up the bike. Today I go to start it after a short ride and nothing happens when I hit the starter button. I click it into neutral and it starts. This happened a few times. As I was coming home from work, the check engine light starts flashing. How can I check what is causing it? I tried searching the forum for 45 minutes and gave up.
Bike is a 2002 and has 45,000 miles on it.
wonders why a lot of riders seem to leave their bikes in gear and pull in the clutch to start up the bike anyway.
In a lifetime of riding I've always been in the habit of selecting neutral before I turn the bike off or if in the case of my XS650 Yammy which was difficult to find neutral while running Id find it after I turned it off.
My bikes are always in neutral when I start them up, and most haven't had a neutral light or any idiot lights (as we call them in OZ)
 

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Your bike will start easier when its in neutral and the clutch disengaged
 

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Your bike will start easier when its in neutral and the clutch disengaged
Thats right Johnny, for instance take my old XS650 (well you can't cis its gone) ...starting proceedure, was, fuel tap to ON,
Ignition key to on, pull clutch lever in.
Give the bike one or two slow kicks through and actually feel the clutch disengage internally, the resistance on the kickstarter would almost dissapear.
Release the clutch lever.
Give it one good kick and it would start.
Trouble free for 8 years, occasional valve,camchain, points, and timing adjustment, Regular oil changes and wash out the reusable oil filter,,
Sure it vibrated, things came loose, things fell off! It leaked oil, it was loud, it didnt look pretty, (won 3 Ratbike trophies in various Poker Runs) the seat was uncomfortable to the point of a numb arse after a few miles(the seat was 40 yrs old)
Oh and it used to jump out of gear sometimes on overrun,
I could live with that.
Never lit up a trouble light! (didnt have any)
Thrashed mercilessly for God knows how many miles (the Speedo needle vibrated off years ago) and the internals shook apart to the degree the odometer gave up too.
Never let me down (except one flat tyre!)
Yes I miss the old girl, the bloke that bought it is doing a full resto mechanically with 750 kit and a crank rephase, also new gearbox internals, we stay in contact.
Sold 3 months ago for over double what I paid for it, to help raise the cash to buy a Victory.
On the lookout for another XS
 
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