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I'm sorry, I don't know. But I must ask, why would you?

A fat tire is usually for show, but on the Cross Country, the only eyes seeing your rear tire are the ants on the ground. Do you have some other reason I'm not seeing? Or are you planning on chopping off the rear fender to show the fatter tire?
 

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Due to the rim size I do not think it would look any larger than a 180. according to bridgestone the 200 requires a 6.0-6.5 width rim. Avon cobra 200 requires a 5.5 inch rim. Not sure if it would clear everything.
 

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Why??? Do you realize that a wide rear tire is going to mess with your handling? You don't really think a 200mm tire is going to make you bike faster do you? 200mm is the width; wider tires aren't "faster" -- wider tires are just wider...
 

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if you were to put the 200 vs the stock size on a scale, you would find the 200 weighs about 4lbs more...greater mass= greater rotational drag= slower roll on times.

I watch alot of guys with busa's put a 240 to a 300 on the rear, thinking it looks cool....on the dyno they loose 15-20rwhp and upwards of 10 ft/lbs of tq.
 

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I found this thread hilarious. Is it April 1st? ;)

The Cross bikes hide the rear tire so well that it would be nearly impossible to tell the difference without getting down on your knees. Heck, I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how I'm going to check the air in the rear tire without taking a bag off!

You would only lose handling and performance by changing to a 200 on this bike.

Also OT - anyone notice the HD ad that pops up every time you hover over the word "Cross Country" on this website? Coincidence - I think not. Those HD marketing geniuses are working overtime and getting nervous. ;)
 

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Well here is a topic that I actually have prior knowledge, so please allow me to throw my 2 cents in.

My 2002 Yamaha Warrior comes stock with a 200. If you know the warrior then you know that it is built for cornering, in the cruiser world. I ruined the outsides of a pair of boots at the Dragon and had a blast doing it.

Now when I did my engine upgrades I found that I was ripping through tires in less than 3000 miles without burnouts. It wasn't due to the 107 Hp but more due to the 127 ft lbs of torque. Of course the only part of the tire that was worn was the center contact patch. Basically I had about an inch and a half worn down to the belt. So at the advice of friends from another forum I upgraded to a 240 back wheel and tire. This was to increase the life of the tire by improving the size of the contact patch width.

Here is what I learned;

Yes there is a loss of Hp. More so with mine because the wheel and tire were bigger = more weighted mass to turn.

No there was no real handling difference on that bike. I had trusted friends who had stock warriors swap with me and they said only at first could you tell the difference.

Yes it improved the life of the tire. I now get more than 5000 miles on a tire which is better then I got when the bike was all stock. In fact I went with a Conti Race attack tire because it was more sticky.

Now what will the tire do for this bike? Probably not too much. Like the warrior, this bike handles beautifully so you will probably not notice too much there. You will lose a little Hp due to the weight of the tire, more so if you get a wider rim. You might find that by going with a wider tire on the stock rim you actually reduce the contact patch and reduce the life of the tire. That was another lesson learned with the warrior. IMPO you would have to look way up her skirt to see that there is a wider tire in there.

So will it fit? From what DD says it doesn't sound like it.

I personally would only put a wider tire on if I were to do major Hp upgrades and I promised myself that I wouldn't do that.:rolleyes:

But it is your bike so if you do it, just make sure you post pictures so we can gawk at them.

I'll shut up now....
 

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Actually it's a very good question and one I'd like to know the answer to as well. Mostly because I'm probably going to go darkside on my first rear tire change. If a 195 will fit; I'll have a lot more choices to choose from. Right now I'm planning to go with a 175 van tire that has worked out very well on many HD Softail's.

By the way, if you use Firefox and the Adblock Plus addon, you won't see the pop up ad's in the forum's.
 

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Last summer, while I & a friend were on a 6800 mile ride, he had a XC, cut his stock tire. Found a dealer that said he had one. Turned out that it was a different size Elite. I think it was 180/70-16, but a different profile anyway. Turned out that it would not fit, it hit the front part of the swingarm. Not much room to fit a higher profile tire. At least get one you can return if it does not fit. Good Luck!!!!
 

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Gumper800,
No response since the day you posted; are you really trying to find an answer or are you just trying to make old folks think?
 

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Last summer, while I & a friend were on a 6800 mile ride, he had a XC, cut his stock tire. Found a dealer that said he had one. Turned out that it was a different size Elite. I think it was 180/70-16, but a different profile anyway. Turned out that it would not fit, it hit the front part of the swingarm. Not much room to fit a higher profile tire. At least get one you can return if it does not fit. Good Luck!!!!
Good info. Thanks. So now we know that only a 60 or maybe a 65 profile will work. Now we just need the width maximum.
 

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Stock XC tire is a Elite 180/60r16. A 200/60r 16 will be a taller tire because the '60' portion of the '200' is a percentage of the width.
 

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Stock XC tire is a Elite 180/60r16. A 200/60r 16 will be a taller tire because the '60' portion of the '200' is a percentage of the width.
That's true; I forgot about that. Well; I've seen a car tire mounted on an XC in pics on one of the forums. I wish I would have asked him about what size he used.
 

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The Darksider you're talking about was probably Piss_pot from theVog. He posted the following:

Hello everyone. I have been lurking around here for some time now and thought it might be time to post up. First and foremost, I love my XC. Awesome motorcycle with a few little quirks. I picked it up 16JAN19. Last weekend I rolled 7800 miles and I am planning a week long ride through Colorado the middle of August and since the back tire was getting close to bald, I thought it would be best to go ahead and put on a new tire. I have been comtemplating going to Darkside for quite some time, well I finally did it. Bought a Kumho SRT 195/55VR-16 for $140.00 and had it mounted and balanced for $40.00. The moment i rolled out of Bikers Bay, I realized the bike was the same. Yesterday i was on a 320 mile ride and the only compaint was the bike was at the mercy of the road irregularities: followed the cracks and grooves. Not a big problem just not what I wanted. Today i checked the tire pressure, 38 psi. Raised it 40 and set the front at 38. Went for a 200 mile ride and bingo, no more tracking problems. Ran a large 270 degree interchange bridge today purposely pushig the speed and lean angle. Once the XC set, she was rock solid at well above the normal.............. I am very pleased and now waiting to see how many miles I can get out of it. Sorry for the long post, just thought I would let you guys know
 

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Gumper800,
No response since the day you posted; are you really trying to find an answer or are you just trying to make old folks think?
I was interested to answers to my original question, not why I shouldn't change tire size. I kind of ignored my thread after I realized there were very few helping to answer my question, and very many telling me why not to do it. I didn't ask if I should, I asked if it was possible. Thanks to those few who helped...........
 

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You found out that a 200mm tire won't fit. Anybody that reads the post now knows what will fit and how to figure out aspect ratio. BBob know's what size tire and what pressure to use if he decides to go to the darkside.

You question was answered and people moved on. Forums rarely stay completely on the subject a thread initiator puts in the header. Most often the header invites new questions that are related to the subject. Most people don't mind -- it's better to know a few things about a lot of stuff than to know a lot of stuff about a few things.

Welcome to the forum!
 

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I was interested to answers to my original question, not why I shouldn't change tire size. I kind of ignored my thread after I realized there were very few helping to answer my question, and very many telling me why not to do it. I didn't ask if I should, I asked if it was possible. Thanks to those few who helped...........
Of course... Someone asks which bridge they should jump off, you gotta be helpful and pick a bridge for them. The last thing you want to do is waste their time and tell them it's a bad idea.
 

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I was interested to answers to my original question, not why I shouldn't change tire size. I kind of ignored my thread after I realized there were very few helping to answer my question, and very many telling me why not to do it. I didn't ask if I should, I asked if it was possible. Thanks to those few who helped...........
I'm interested in knowing the answer to your original question as well bro.

This is really basic. Can certain size tires fit on the XC/XR?

I really want to know the outer measurements of the rear tire posibilities that'll work on an XC. Doesn't really get any more basic than that, eh. :D

I plowed new ground, they call it "pioneering" in many instance's, but the point is; I will go to the darkside again just like I did with an HD and brought the entire idea to the HDforum.com. It took off like wild fire because everyone is sick and tired of being screwed by the tire companies, eh.

Easy peazy man. We can be part of the solution or just roll with it. :D
 
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